SPQRsniper

Agree that the 1911 crowd (in general) needs more of a "live and let live" attitude about tupperware. We are all shooters. --Carlos Thank you!

Nah, wasnt Kartozian. Sorry... just can't grasp the name, tip of my tounge you know?<p>Yes, with a 3.5 connector.... but it still has the long take up, and a recovery stroke about as long as its barrel.<p>No one does use the factory sights. And the defensive guys always change them out for tritium or equivilent. Which makes me wonder.... Why do they put those POS things on there any way? If this is supposed to be the best gun since sliced bread, why not raise the price by $10 and put some quality sights on the thing. I'm running Heine, and they're non-adjustable, but at least they work better than those cumbersom nobs on the slide that Glock installs.

I agree with most of the replys.<p>I met a guy at the texas limited shooting a glock... 35 i think... and he was a GM. yeah, Valdez can kick some a with a glock. But let me ask you this... how many good glock shooters do we see compared to good single action shooters do we see?<p>Personally, i think this is in large part due more to the company (Glock) than to the gun. How many GOOD shooters do we see sponsored by Glock?...<p>How many SHOOTERS do we see sponsored by Glock?<p>I think, that if Glock would git off their tails, and run a better match (does anyone else out there despise GSSF?) such as a GSSF II w some actual MOVEMENT, and possibly sponsor a team of compitent shooters, we would see the Glock develop and possibly even overtake the STI/SV guns, in the A-C class mid-level shooter market.<p>The pros and the cons? well... i personally somewhat favor the Glock... believe it or not. The pros are deffinantly cost, (you can buy 3 open guns at least for the price of one, for goodness sake), reliability, availability, and durability.<p>But lets be honest. The gun was just not built for competiton. The trigger sux. Yeah.. if you eliminate a couple of safty features, the trigger can be light and short, but besides that its just sloppy as heck. And whats with the crappy plastic white-outed sight? Its a gun folks, not a camera. And can you say "drop-free"? Or how about "gun-smith"? How many competient glock-smiths do you know, versus 1911 smiths?<p>There are some darn good ones, don't get me wrong. For instance, the GM i was speaking of earlier, he had his bomars installed by some gunsmith in AZ ( i can't remember the name... Zodiac comes to mind, but don't quote me on this folks), and his workmanship was realllllllly good. It looked almost facotry. I really like that idea.... those sights improve the guns shootability by about 150%. Have you ever gone to a match with your Glock, and thought, ok, 58% humidity, 120grn lead today, 5.2 powder.... this is my 17 model, the one that usually shoots 3 in right, 2 in left at 50, so... i should hold 3 in high at 15yrds? Trust me, this is not good when you have a headshot on a hostage covered target.<p>So, yeah, i don't hate glocks. One of the reasons i wrote this is because i was trying to figure out what made some guys think that because another persons using different/weird tools, they automatically are either crazy or just plain suck. Got any ideas?

Man... its time to have a REAL discussion on this site.<P>So.. with that being said, lets have a no-holds-barred discusion.<P>A guy shows up at your range. Never seen him before. We all know we eyeball the equipment. Measuring up... lets see... nice speed rig, 5 mag pouches, Pro-Ears, cleates, Oakly Juliet sunglasses... seems like this guy's got some cash or has been doing it a while... one or the other, maybe both. Then you glance down.. "Huh. Thats a Glock." Whats the next thing that goes through your mind? "Dude, that guys got guts shooting that pice of .... tupperware out here. I'll show him." or no? "Wow. Nice G17. Look at those Bomars, custom milled into his slide... this guy seems allright."<P>Which camp are you in? We all know that the shooter is more important than the equipment... but which are you more fearful of? A G 17 or a SV.38 comp gun? Be honest now guys, do glocks hold there own in USPSA? Or do their cons outweigh their pros?