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Floydian
That looks fantastic! Did you do it or have it done by a shop? I use a CR Speed so im not super worried about wear (except on trigger guard)
Thanks PHX
I do all my own work, It is tedious time consuming stuff to get a good result, takes 2-4 days mucking about
sand-blasting (120 mesh garnet), mixing, spraying, acetone cleanup and the electric or gas $bill for baking parts
repeatedly sure got my missus attention
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Hi PHX
Ours in Cerakote (oven bake), this stuff hangs on if you can get it on real thin.
Floydian
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When ejecting the factory mag is stops 1 1/2" meeting resistance then I have to pull it out. But the mag from Henning with the aluminum base (marked K10) drops right out. Same thing when inserting. I had not heard of this with the factory supplied mag. Can anyone shed some light on this? Thanks!
After ejecting the factory mag several times now it is dropping all the way out a few times???
Hey Kwesi, Try some ink, paint marker or white out on the mag & try fitting with the grips off.
This should reveal where the snag is.
Floydian
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Okay.. Pictures look like they are ready. First of all, ipscjoe, thank you so much for the information about Ross Dean (aka dr. dot) and also about the trigger. I am amazed and the wealth of knowledge and how helpful everyone is on here. I definitely appreciate it. Floydian, I also appreciate all the information you have given, although it has led me to have some more questions. As for whether or not it is a cone lock up, I am more than happy to expose my ignorance. What does "cone lock up" mean? From reading through these forums, I've learned that most tanfoglios are either the 1911 bushing style slide or a cone lock up slide. This definitely does not have the front bushing like a 1911 as you can see in the pictures below. That being said, how do I go about removing the compensator to remove the barrel and clean the slide? I see a good bit of residue above the barrel towards the front of the slide that seems to be just about impossible to get to without removing the barrel? Any suggestions? I have read that the older comps are threaded on, but are they right hand threaded or reverse threaded? Is there any technique to getting them off? The comp already has a small nick in it from the previous owner, and I wonder if it came from removing it for cleaning. I can see how the newer 1911 bushing style slide would make it so much easier to remove the barrel for cleaning, but I do like how tight this slide and barrel locks up.
I'm confused about the mags / mag release advice you gave me. What benefit is the 2003/2004 type mag release? I am guessing I don't have this as I believe this gun was built in the 90's, but I included pictures of the mags I have along with a picture of the mag release in the frame and looking up in the magwell. (I'm not sure if that will make it easier to tell, but I'm curious what I should be looking for and what benefit the newer releases will give).
This came with a brand new wolf 15 pound recoil spring, which is what I may begin with to start on the safe side. It did come with an eaa extended ambi safety which I know I can use for ipsc. I also agree it would be a shame to butcher the comp by putting an extra port. I am going to work up my load and see how the comp does, and if it seems like I still need to do some more work, I may look into having a new comp put on the barrel, but I do want to preserve the original. That being said, is there any reason why I should not shoot this in competition? I have had a few pm me telling me that these older tanfoglios are getting harder and harder to find and to take care of it as a lot of the custom parts can no longer be found. I definitely take extremely good care of my firearms and baby them more than I should, but I want to make sure this isn't something that belongs in a collection before I start competing with it. Once again I appreciate all the information and suggestions/advice you guys have been so kind to give! (And Happy Easter!)
Hi 93Civiccpe,
By Cone Lockup I mean cone lockup slide to comp as you have found out. With your setup the slide, barrel & comp are left assembled for most of the part, meaning the comp is permanent. For cleaning its easy to work with just the slide/barrel/comp and the guide rod & spring removed.
If I have to pull a comp off: Soft jaws in the vice & soft flame/heat on the comp & soft thick leather in the jaws of some very large multi grips. The thread is right handed. I refit mine with Locktite 638, the green stuff, but everyone has their own favorite for this.
The newer mag releases have a much larger catch to key into the mag slot. The newer mags also have a thinner slot.
Stops any up & down slop/movement of the mag in the frame. I would do the mag catch but the magazines themselves
are not as important. Pretty sure Henning has a thread or some comment on this.
Off topic but both our Gold Teams have polagonal rifling & will not group the new breed of thin copper jacket electroplated over lead! They are very accurate otherwise.
There is a lot of space to play with more porting behind your 3 ports & keep to factory look/spec 93Civiccpe.
No reason why you shouldn't shoot that gun in competition, we all do
,Happy Blasting & Easter
Floydian
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Hi, Fresh Paintjob over Easter,
"Oven bake" Satin Mag, Graphite Black & Stop Light Red.
This is my Wifey & Sons small frame 9mm Gold Team.
Cheers
Floydian
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Nice find 93Civiccpe,
Thats an original, is it a cone lock-up?
Very rare & retro style mount, comp & trigger, hard to find these old parts nowdays.
Have the mag-release checked, you will probably need 2003/04 onward type.
Same deal with any mags that came with it, if they have the large slot like old P-9s.
For I.P.S.C you may want an ambi safety.
If you want Major but don't want to stress your slide consider hand loading near maximum length ammo
and heavier projectiles like 135s will launch your slide back a little slower.
Nice firm recoil springs to start with, fresh 12lb &10lbs.
Maybe a forth port for major? although be a shame to butcher that original oldskool comp.
The longer Henning firing pins give these guns 100% detonation & he does one for the small frame.
Hope something here helps
Good Luck
Floydian
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That formular was given to me by an old timer who sold me my first Tanfog
back in 1992 or 93, worked great for many years in combats & later longslide
models that were standard/stock guns.
I sometimes run a 9mm Limited(SMALL CUSTOM FRAME)nearly identical to your Stock 2.
(Win230 behind 160gn lead & Fed small rifle primers,10-12lb guide rod spring.
Have fun Jim
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I did a search and can't find any. I need a loading data fot Stock 2 9mm minor. I have Winchester WST and Titegroup and 124gr bullet with federal sp. If you guys don't mind sharing feel free to post. Thanks.
btw... Just got my stock 2 yesterday and it came with the old mag design still, kinda bum about it. I haven't tried it yet and will see how it performs.
Thanks,
Jim
Hi Jim, 4.2 of WST will get you around 125pf with 125 grain lead, copper will want more powder.
Probably won't cycle reliably until you work the loads up to over 130 pf.
4.5 grains is a nice load.
Cheers
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Anyone, please
34 coils including the spring tangs Dyroe,
Wire on my 10lb is .04164"
Length of a fresh one is around 4.9"
Cheers
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Full ceramic oven bake coating, first attempt although frame
took 3 go's to get it right. (H-151)
Floydian
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Awesome blaster Jmcmanis,
The trigger-guard, serrated top strap & magwell fit are !!!
can't find the words, maybe "surreal".
Floydian
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Where you got that magwell Floydian?
One off homemade, suited to their really small hands.
Floydian
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Hi, My Wifey & Lads 9mm setup
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Really nice Cha-Lee, looks world class,
I reckon they look better hard chromed all over without the dressed sides!!
Lee
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Will it fit V12? I would think that it would need
a few turns on the comp as well since V12 is a bit shorter
than V8 slide. HHow much did it cost?
These don't fit the V12 Shooterbenedetto without a huge amount of gun smithing ,they are made for long-slides,
Limited, Match & Gold Custom.
The V12 seems to be only available as a complete top-end that includes the slide and downunder they have that
grey/gun metal GK coating so it won't match our hard chromed silver frames.
It's a conspiracy so you have to buy the whole gun:-)
Was interesting to see the US EAA V12s were hard chromed?
Regards Lee
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Is that a factory 9mm kit?
Yes Jody, poly barrel & even came in a Tanfoglio box. I will add more porting as their skills
progress, maybe a V4 or V6.
Regards Lee
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Is that small frame? let us know how it shoots.
How many rounds can you shoot with 170mm and 140mm
Now only 10+1 downunder in Aus Shooterbenedetto.
I did have one of these small custom framed guns in the 1990s and it did empty the whole clip,
about 23rns or 24 + 1 but you had to have mint condition brass, a really good full length resizing die,
they had to be loaded maximum length so they were almost up the feed ramp before they could nose dive
and easy on the crimp to keep the rounds more paralell so they stacked flatter inside the mag.
Cheers Lee
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Hi Readers
Thought some of you might like a look see at a new Comp-Kit in 9mm.
Wifey & oldest son are bored with Standard Gun and keep wearing out my V8
so I am giving their Limited a makeover.
Cracked the factory Locktite with very gentle flame & screwed comp on another
turn, then precision ground the muzzle end of the slide for a nice 7-thou lockup
gap clearance.
Now just have to make them a custom mount & slide racker while they save for a C-more
& flog my V8 some more!!!
Cheers Lee
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who was the guy that did the hard chrome job? I have an open gun I need done. That thing looks sweet!
Hey there Tanfogliofan
If you are downunder, it was Petes Gun Works in N.S.W.
He builds custom mover mounts for NRA.
Found him by Googling SSAA articles.
Cheers Lee
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Lee,
Thanks for the info, but now I also have to ask about the Trigger. Who made it?
Tom
Hey Tom
I did this trigger just by templating the factory trigger over 7075 Aluminium billet.
Just gave it more depth & a flat face on the back to make it look cool.
I always admired the old "P9 World Cups" trigger being made of aluminium and
wanted to give it a try. Works ok but aluminium does not lever/break the sear
with the same crisp feel as steel.
Regards Lee
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Lee: You do some VERY NICE work!
What material did you use for the project?
What angle did you use on the opening?
What are the final dimensions of the piece...Length, width and height?
Thanks for the info!!!
Hi ks-shooter & thanks,
Material is 6061 Aluminium, glass bead blasted.
Angle is factory, 45 degree or 90 degree included angle cutter.
Length is 2.795" x Width 1.960" x Height .990"
Found an old pic of an earlier attempt on our 9mm.
Cheers Lee
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Hi Shooters
I made this slide on attempt about 2005-06, has been posted before.
It is based on the factory MW, but with larger shoulders, lands & radii to aid
grip/hand compression. (& suit my medium-small hands).
Currently only has a mouth opening as per factory size but could be opened right up.
I don't have time to make these with a busy family, but if it helps give anyone ideas,
discussion or some project assistance then I am happy.
Regards Lee
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C-More--parallel to bore? ?
in Tanfoglio (EAA / IFG)
Posted · Edited by Floydian
Look carefully at your Tanfoglio, you will see that they are made with the barrel
pointing down a few degrees. Some mount manufacturers take this into account and
some don't.
A parallel mount will still sight in but your's will be true to the bore.
Cheers Floydian