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mountaincoulee, Yes, exactly. Movement and action before engaging targets. Total concentration on the task at hand; staying in the now. -p2000lefty

joseywales, Thank you for the suggestions. Other readers should definitely think about this when they build the stage and consider their wall frames. I like the tough shot and I have limited space to work in and we are ok with the fact that our wooden wall frames may get shot a few times. Thank you for sharing your stages. I love them! Do you mind if I submit them at my home club? I will give you full credit of course. -p2000lefty

Hello again B.E. community, Merry xmas and a happy new year to all. This is a stage that we shot at my local range. It was modified by a master open shooter to make it more challenging. However, he used no-shoots and I will let you add them as you feel necessary. The outside barrels were added sinse we shot it and I hope to use this variation next year if our rangemaster likes it enough. This will be my final offering for awhile, please use as you see fit and give due credit. I hope you enjoyed this exercise as much as I did. Thank you for all your wonderful in sites and suggestions. I feel more confident in my designs. DVC, p2000lefty Run_and_Reload.doc

rupie, I would never set up a stage to get anyone DQed. That is just dangerous. Stressing safe gun handling and teaching safety is what will prevent that; stage design still needs to be challenging. Maybe I don't understand, The barrel of the gun is pointed down range when you pick it up. Oh, I think that I get it now!!!! I'm a lefty and I can grab it strong hand and return to the fault lines. You must be righties who would have to not break the 180 on the return trip to the fault lines running with the barrel across your body and not sweeping your left hand? Please modify it to make it safe for you and your shooters. DVC, p2000lefty

shootingchef, If I pretend that I had steel framed walls I may use no shoots to cover the frame when they may get shot. At least then you can penalize them for not respecting the property. You're probably spending too much of your good energy worrying about the walls when they are used for a shooting sport. Enjoy them and find a range member who knows how to weld and become his good friend. Or ship them up to Wisconsin and I can send you some already shot up wood frame walls that you do not have to be concerned about. DVC, p2000lefty

Thank you Jay, Glad you like it. I think it will be fun to shoot if the wind dos'nt blow the walls over. Tell Mike "hi" for me. DVC, p2000lefty

racerba, It would be a good plan to take at least one mag to load and get ready to shoot as soon as you enter the fault lines as laid out. Or you could put three mags on your belt and one in your hand and run to get the gun. Then load and be ready to shoot when you re-enter the fault lines. Do a quick mag change from a mag left on the table then move down the fault lines. The possibilities are many. It would really depend on you mag capacity and how far you think it through. Let me know how your idea works. I could use this again... I like all the possibilities. DVC, p2000lefty

Hello B.E. community, This is a experiment on use of walls on a shooting berm. I find that I try to challenge shooters by limiting movement and shooting positions in this one. I like to look and see where I would do my mag changes. It would probably change once it was set up in real life, but the breakdown and mental conditioning is still exciting to me. I hope you find it interesting. Use and alter to suit your needs as long as you give due credit. DVC, p2000lefty Ruby_XI.doc

Thank you all for taking the time. Rodeo Clown- Thank you and let me know how it works for you and your shooters. shootingchef- First, let me say how jealous I am that you have steel framed walls. Second, I don't see where your walls would get shot up? Maybe move the targets farther away from the walls? How do you usually deal with this problem? Rocket35- You don't need to rub salt in the wounds of winter in Wisconsin. I am jealous with your all year shooting season. The shooting bays project is a slow process as all committee and constitutional things are. We are just happy that the ball continues to slowly roll along. It is still a trap club and you remember how that works. I remain optimistic. DVC, p2000lefty

Thank you all, I knew this one would open up some "cans". Thank you all for taking the time. I always see it through new eyes when you give suggestions. Make it safe, fun, and challenging for you and your shooters. Steve J- I will change to ammunition carrier in the description. The idea that I had was that you will be competing against others with the same situation; revolver, single stack, etc... so how fast can you get the ammo on your belt? Do you even need to put it on your belt? So often we have comfort in the fact that we have more ammo on us that we would ever need. What would you grab when you are working against the timer? Rob D- Safety and teaching should always be in the front of everyones mind. Better to learn the lesson with a unloaded gun. danial97- By all means modify to suit your shooters. You would have to change the fault lines. Please post or send me what you come up with, I would like to see it. sirveyr- Thank you! I was going to title it "Conscientious Objector", but I though it too loaded for people to get upset about. Thank you for pointing out that the distances are always negotiable. Set it up for your shooters. racerba- Yes, that may improve the flow. My idea was that you would have to run to get the gun because we usually start shooting as soon as the gun is in our hands. Mentally challenging that notion is what I was going for in this design. DVC, p2000lefty

Greetings B.E. community, This is one of my first stage designs. It is a little "circus" like. Most will chuckle when you look at it and dismiss it as a beginners design. However, remember that you can change anything that you don't like as long as you give due credit. I think it will be a fun stage and a little change from the routine. Remember, I have thick skin as long as you have positive intent. I have not used this stage and will look for feedback. So have at it and enjoy, DVC p2000lefty Neutralize_and_Eliminate.doc

Hey Rocket35, Thank you! I am actually designing for your old stomping grounds at Springbrook. Unfortunately, I started shooting after you had moved. We are in the off season up here and I am getting antsy. Even Schultz's is not holding a match until March! -p2000lefty

DAJarrel, You are welcome. Enjoy! p2000lefty

LPatterson, Excellent point! Remember that you can add width as desired. What about making the center walls a pyramid shape? I wish there would be a R.O. course in Wisconsin. I never considered the R.O. when designing. Thank you, p2000lefty

Thank you DSB45ACP, How do you loose the best laid plan... Beeep. Then you have to rely on instincts. Or you drop a magazine just because you are moving and have to worry about running out of bullets so you shoot to slide lock every time. Apparently my instincts are paranoid. DVC, p2000lefty

Please remember I have a rifle berm to work with and stages stacked across the front of said berm. This would be a quick set-up. It could be made more challenging with length or width variations or easier by removing no shoots and/or paint from targets. This is all theory. I have not used this yet, so feedback would be appreciated. Enjoy, DVC p2000lefty Diamond_II.doc

Boz1911, I could not agree with you more. The beginning shooters should focus on safety, good technique and getting all A's. If you are teaching speed to beginners D.Q.'s and worse may happen. In order to challenge all levels of shooter at a match you can not limit yourself to beginner level stages. I would hate to lose all the experience and wisdom of my A, master and grandmaster shooters because they are bored by my stages. Again, I stress, teach safety and technique and help them be better shooters and make everyone more safe. Everyone benefits from safety and good teaching, DVC p2000lefty

This is a opportunity to teach and practice the backup around a wall with the barrel down range. Please keep safety at the front of your mind when using any of my stages. Think of it as an opportunity to teach new shooters good technique and challenge everyone. One stage a day until xmas? DVC, -p2000lefty Chuck_Roast.doc

Let me know how it works out in practice. The theory is as far as I have taken this stage. Enjoy, p2000lefty

In the holiday spirit here is another from the collection. This one is for you lucky folks with shooting bays. Please feel free to use this as long as you give due credit. Not a lot of movement as is but, you could add a row of no-shoots just past the shooting area to make a little more movement. If you move the shooting box up range it could become very difficult. Of course you could alway sprinkle in more no-shoots and black paint. I think that this one would challenge all skill levels. It is also very R.O. friendly. enjoy, p2000lefty Help_from_the_Edge.doc

Absolutely! Rick B., when setting up we always adjust to make it more challenging. On paper it is often hard to tell where the no-shoots need to be placed. Some no shoots on the edges of the gap could also make you get up close and aim longer. Thank you for your ideas. I hope that you get to set this up at your club. -p2000lefty

wide45, Good question. My reasoning is two fold , first, for variety of start positions and second, for practice to move, draw, and get to a shooting position. There is a lot of thought before you even begin to pull the trigger. I find that this adds challenge for all shooters. We have a range of first time shooters to master and grand master shooters at our matches. However, consider your shooters and adapt the start position as appropriate. Thank you for the input, -p2000lefty

Flexmoney, All good points and thank you very much for the feedback. Anyone using this please consider your shooters before using this design. We have a wind issue at our range so our walls tend to be very sturdy. Not having bay walls the 180 and muzzle awareness is stressed at our matches. The plates in the back would have to be placed very carefully to avoid the shoot through, I would suggest low placement to avoid the splatter. The R.O. will have to pick spots carefully. Honestly, I never consider the R.O. Thank you, p2000lefty

Wow Frank, That is awesome! Designing for the Illinois sectional match you have to be thorough in your designs, and you are. I would like to use your set-up template for any level three matches that I design in the future. My designs are for a local club matches and need to be flexible. I give the set up crew all the flexibility they need. -p2000lefty ps I hope to shoot the Illinois sectional next year.

rr4406pak - I can post them for you or email them to you. Tom Mainus gave them to me. Where they came from originally I do not know. Stormbringer - You start outside the fault lines and facing down range on the up range side of the wall. The idea was to run around the wall and enter the shooting area. Flexmoney - That is up to the shooter. The gap between the center walls makes this a true field course with choices. -p2000lefty