Taildraggerdave
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I read through this thread and want to ensure I'm doing this right before I start. I've got an earlier model Glock 22 (purchased new in 2003) and I'm using RCBS carbide dies. Will I need the bulge buster, or will this suffice?
Try it and find out. Really no other way. Grab some cases, lube 'em up and run 'em through the resizing station of your press.
Take those cases and see how well they fit in a chamber gauge or the chamber of your G22. It they fit, your gtg. If not, get the Bulge Buster.
Take care,
Dave
And welcome to the forums !!
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I don't think it's as much of a looser chamber as much as the Glock .40's originally had a gap at the base of the chamber where the feed ramp was. I think that they've corrected this in later models, but the "Glock Bulge" was due to this section of the brass that had no chamber around it. Hence the "unsupported chamber".
This is true but the newest Gen 3 versions have a fully supported chamber. However, the chamber is on the loose side and the brass looks slightly barrel shaped after firing. No more pregnant guppy look, though, and that is definitely good.
Take care,
Dave
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I run all my range 40 brass thru a Lee Buldge Buster on a single stage press, the LBB has a carbide sizing ring and costs less than the Redding GRX without. Throw away the FCD guts, just sayin.
THe Lee Bulge buster says not to use on Glock brass. I was going to do this until I read that. Any problems or thoughts?
More disclaimer crap....
The Bulge Buster works fine at exactly what it was designed for, removing the Glock bulge.
Take care,
Dave
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I've been following the threads praising the green bullets and wanted to give them a try. And please don't take anything I say as a knock against the product - it's not intended that way. I've only been reloading for about a year now (not a complete noob but not the most knowledgeable either) so please forgive my ignorance.
If I load them shorter they still have to pass through the chamber even if they are not sticking right? So will the larger diameter (thicker coating) cause any damage to the chamber? I wouldn't think so, the steel being harder than the coating, but could the coating erode the steel over time?
As a side note the Precision 185's I've been loading measure .3995 at the case mouth whereas the Bayous are coming in at .4015 - .402 (both with an AOL of 1.140). Bayou's coating is definitely thicker and I believe that's why they're not fitting the case gauge the way I'm used to seeing.
I load .40 cal 180gr Bayou's at 1.130 and they go all the way into my EGW case gauge. The coating is part of the design of his bullets.
Take care,
Dave
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You are loading long. The case gauge is made for factory length ammo. On cartridges loaded long, it will stick out like that. Like was said, drop in rimmed end first. If it goes in, your gtg.
this ^
Take care,
Dave
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Clays for Minor, WSF for Major.
This
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Dave
Yes, but what load of clays?
Greg
You can go all the way down to 2.6gr Clays with a 180gr Bayou and still get 135PF out of it.
Also, each .1gr is about 15-20fps (at least in mine).
Take care,
Dave
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Clays for Minor, WSF for Major.
This
Take care,
Dave
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I wanted to give this a bump.
I was able to get a full hundred count run in and only had
a few jams on the whole run. I backed the through bolt for the shell plate
out a half turn from seated and it was ok. I had never ran the bolt that loose
before but it seemed to help. Also, for the cases that did hang up, I was able to slide
them in the shell plate while the ram was still up using a long allan wrench.
Still open to any ideas.
Take care,
Dave
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I would go with the lock up like a vault theory. Since it locks up when the slide is dropped, that's how it would be when it fires.
Take care,
Dave
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Another +1 for the Lee Bulge Buster. Works well and is cheap.
My EGW case gauge is definitely tighter than my chamber in my stock G35 barrel.
I have at this point pushed all the cases through the BB with some One Shot on them. Takes a few minutes to push a hundred through so it's no big deal on time.
Then reload as normal.
I may try a batch here that doesn't go through the BB and see what I get. I've done a bunch like this before and would occasionally get a cartridge that was too
large for the EGW, but I didn't think to barrel check it instead. Given the generous chamber sizing, I imagine they would fit.
The newest Gen 3 .40 barrels are almost fully supported now so the brass has some overall growth to it but not the pregnant guppy look that you used to get.
Take care,
Dave
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Dillon,
I pulled the shell plate off and the cases go in fine.
I put the shell plate back on and tried cycling some brand new factory ammunition (I took the tool head off) and the new rounds go right in.
I couldn't make one misfeed into station one. I grabbed some tumbled brass out of my bucket and it jammed on the third one....
Take care,
Dave
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You didn't mention your pistol model.
Many OEM 40SW barrels in pistols, Glock for instance, have unsupported chambers. Thus, you end up with the infamous 40 bulge at the base.
Not only can this make feeding into the shell plate an issue, but, more importantly, if the bulge is not completely removed during resizing, you will have a significantly higher probability of encountering fail to feed (chamber) issues at the range.
You can either go with EGW modified Lee resizing die, which doesn't solve the shell plate problem, or, go with the Redding push through 40 die in a single stage press.
I installed the EGW modified die. I also very gently opened up each shell plate station with a file in order to accommodate bulging brass. No issues at all after making these changes.
Well, I was trying to avoid that...
The once fired is from a G22 but the range pickup, I have no idea.
I used the Lee Bulge Buster setup where you push the cases through the lower carbide ring in an FCD die.
I lubed the batch I was working on with One Shot, and pushed them all through the BB, then checked them in an EGW case gauge and they all dropped right in.
Again, I'll add that I can't visually see any defect in the case rim area.
Just reread your post and I may have to do something similar to what you did on the shell plate openings.
Also to Marc,
I've had the cases jam up even while doing ultra slow motion with my big head stuck in the press with a flashlight trying to see what is going on.
Again, thanks for all the replies.
Hopefully we can get this figured out.
Dave
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Thanks for the speedy replies.
Jay, I did that as well. Marked the shell plate with paint dots and it happens to all 4 of the slots. Thing is, this is my old 9mm plate so it's had
a few thousand 9mm through it already. I might get 8 pieces to go through fine, then the next 5 will all be a problem. Random.
Dillon, yes they do slide through the locator easily, it's a W and I have the purple feeder sleeve.
Take care,
Dave
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Hello again,
I'm running a 550B that I've loaded on for a few years now with a Dillon Case Feeder.
No problems with 9mm or 45 as far as the case feeder goes.
I've just recently started loading 40S&W and am having a problem getting the cases to cleanly enter station 1.
The cases seem to bind right at the entrance to the shell plate. I have to back the handle up a bit and then continue with the stroke
to get the case to go into station 1 on the shell plate. It's pretty random as I'll get a few cases that will go in all the way and then
I'll get one or more that will hit the die on the way up as they are mostly outside of station 1.
I've cleaned the track for the case feeder and am pretty comfortable with it's adjustment. The cases that are binding appear to have
no defects in the rim area. They are once fired cases from a buddies 40, as well as range pickups. They all have problems getting into station 1.
I removed and cleaned the shell plate, the aluminum track from the case feeder, the area underneath the shell plate and have experimented with different amounts of
play in the shell plate from almost zero to pretty loose. Results are the same.
I'm using a #5 shell plate.
Take care,
Dave
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after the upgrade, did anyone lose their ringtones?
i did.
Just re-sync the phone again with iTunes and they should come back. I lost my music, videos, and ringtones when I did mine
but got 'em back with a re-sync.
Take care,
Dave
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How long ago did you order the barrel?
Take care,
Dave
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Weird. I emailed them last thursday (9/22) and got a call back an hour or two later. My barrel was on my doorstep when I got home from a business trip on Wednesday 9/28.
When did you place the order. It's my understanding that they recently ran out of barrels and are making more.
Take care,
Dave
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In the giant 930 thread, M24shooter recommended using foil tape.
I had some in the garage so I tried it myself. Seemed to help.
The tape I have is .004" thick. I cut a small strip the length
of the trigger guard, and stuck it to the right side of the receiver,
biasing the trigger group to the left (as seen with the gun turned
upside down). Probably could put one more strip in and take all the play
out.
Mine had a problem where the lifter wouldn't drop into the the small groove
in the bottom of the bolt and would interfere with the loading and unloading of
shells. They would bind about half way into the mag tube.
All seems good now.
Take care,
Dave
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Anyone with a 930 ever have success filling a 10 round tube and getting the shell to come out of the mag tube to chamber by hand?
Trying to understand this. Are you talking about loading the mag tube to capacity then cycling with the bolt repetitively until empty?
Exactly. Shells stay in the tube-period. Benny thinks it's too much spring. I cut mine all the way down to same length as the tube and the shells still stay in the tube.
I don't have one to look at. Is the consensus that there is too much pressure on the shell stop for it to function correctly?
Yeah. When the tube is full, you cannot get a shell to come out of the tube when you run the bolt. It always works when you fire the gun but not by hand.
I usually put one in the chamber, fill the tube, and run it
Take care,
Dave
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does anybody run a 930 spx? seems like it would be a god place to start
Sure they do. But there are no chokes so you are somewhat limited at the farther targets.
You could spend the money and get the barrel threaded for chokes. Or, you could by a new barrel.
Or, you could buy a non SPX, get a mag tube, barrel, etc. and still be at or below the cost of a new SPX.
BTW, I have an SPX. I like it. But, in the end, you'd probably do just as well with a turkey model.
Take care,
Dave
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3117fps seems pretty decent from your 25.6gr load. Did you get any pressure signs at that point? I usually load to 2.250 OAL vs your 2.230", I wonder if lengthening that you could get a little faster yet... groups don't sound all that great, but I wonder if some tuning could improve it.
Thanks for sharing!
No pressure signs at all. I checked each case individually as they came out.
I didn't expect much from the Xtreme bullets, though. You probably could tighten the groups up with either a better projectile or some fine tuning as you say.
I bought em for up close hoser stuff.
Take care,
Dave
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I got some Alliant AR Comp Powder a couple weeks ago and found little to no data online beyond a few loadings listed on Alliant's site.
I did find a couple forums where guys liked 22.7gr with a 68gr bullet so I included that in my test.
I loaded up 4 steps each using 55gr Xtreme FMJ 55gr bullets and 4 steps using 68gr Hornady HPBT Match bullets.
Brass was twice fired, trimmed, sized, etc. Winchester brass.
Platform is a .556 chambered 20" Colt barrel.
I have an Excel sheet made up but the forum will only allow me to upload a pdf so sorry about having to go to
page two for the rest of the sheet...
I like the powder but it doesn't seem to meter much better than Varget in a Dillon 550 although YMMV.
Best group (100yards) was sub MOA but barely at .968" using the 68gr Hornady's and the best 55gr group was 2.19",
which is not bad considering how inexpensive the Xtreme's are.
Take care,
Dave
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Did I miss something here or not??
In the game of Horse, Iain said "Smith and Wesson, double action, two hands" and in the clip where he shot it, the hammer was back in single action mode which makes it a much easier shot, yet when JJ ran it, he shot it correctly as a double action, which would make the shot more difficult.
I'm calling foul... (either that or he had the trigger staged for a LONG time)
Dave
.40 minor load w/ Bayou 140 grain TC
in 10mm/40 Caliber
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I don't see any other grain weight on Bayou's website for the .40 besides 180gr.
Does he offer these different weights but has not updated his website?
Maybe it's like the secret menu at In n Out....
Also, what are the costs for the other grain weight bullets, in say, a 500 pack?
Take care,
Dave