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    650 Primer index problems

    in Dillon Precision Reloading Equipment

    Posted

    7 hours ago, hwevers said:

    This happened to me once, so I guess it's possible that someone else could run into it.

     

    The primer indexing arm (#13362) was skipping and not returning properly and generally being a real pain. Talked w/ Dillon and they sent me replacement pieces- indexing arm, the return spring, primer disc-all to no avail. I just happened to notice that the cavity in the housing body (#21279) has the shaft of a rivet in it. It is possible to insert the return spring so it is seated on this shaft. You have to have it seat ALL the way into the cavity, past the rivet shaft. This fixed the problem for me and I've had no problems since then (4 years ago)

    I hope this helps.

     

    Howard

    I saw that a couple days ago when I completely disassembled the primer feed mechanism.  There was wear at the back of the spring seat area but I should check the rivet and see if there are any witness marks on it.  The whole indexer engagement / release /reset seems a little loosey goose to me.  If the spring gets out of wack in the least the whole thing come crashing down.

     

     

    650 Primer index problems

    in Dillon Precision Reloading Equipment

    Posted

    21 hours ago, tmz said:

     Yes you are correct my mistake and getting the two mixed up.  Might want to disassemble the primer indexer to make sure nothing is hanging up in there and stopping it from rotating from time to time also make sure that you don't over tighten the nut that the primer sensor sits on top of.  The aluminum tube that has the brass tip on it may cost some interference if it's over tightened on the index wheel.  

    That I will have to try.  I always tighten it pretty good.  I hope it's that simple!!

    650 Primer index problems

    in Dillon Precision Reloading Equipment

    Posted

    4 hours ago, Sarge said:

    Dillon did at one time I believe but I just checked their forums and only see that they advise caution when using soft federal pistol primers

     

    On 3/1/2017 at 2:00 PM, tmz said:

     At what point is this happening  ?  The four bottom stroke of the machine  ?  Or the upstroke when your seating the primer  ?  Are you actually bending the arm or just the index tab that inserts into the primer wheel ? 

     In order for you to crush the indexed  arm  something is hanging up the primer wheel if it was a primer you would find a crashed primer in there.  You should also  check the primer seating assembly to make sure it's fully coming out of the primer wheel on the upstroke when the primer indexes if it's not it will hold the wheel  in place and cause damage to the  index arm. 

    My guess is at the top of the stroke since that is the only way I see a force on the index mechanism. The arm is bending and the spring is also getting bent and ruined.  I can bend the arm back fairly close but the springs are never the same and it stops indexing without the new spring.

    Please elaborate on the Primer seating assembly.... i'm not following how on the upstroke the it would cause damage.  doesn't the primer wheel disengage the shell plate near the bottom of the stroke and the wheel index at the top of the stroke??? I think I am missing something.

    Thanks

    650 Primer index problems

    in Dillon Precision Reloading Equipment

    Posted

    10 minutes ago, RiggerJJ said:

    The only time I have problems like this is when a primer gets cockeyed in the wheel somewhere and locks it up. Have you tried different primers? The lot you have could be oversized or out of round...

    jj

    Been running win sp but I do have federals.  They warn against using them though... and with issues already I'd hate to have a detonation 

    650 Primer index problems

    in Dillon Precision Reloading Equipment

    Posted

    Hello -

    I just picked up a new 650 a month ago and have crushed the Primer Arm Indexer and it's spring 2 times.  Dillon is now sending me a third one.  the first one lasted about 300 rounds and the last one about 50.  I've cleaned and lubricated everything and at this point Dillon helpline asked me to separate the brass in to different head stamps.  I think that they are stumped too.  I've never owned a 650 before but have run a 550 for 20+ years and I can't see a connection between head stamps and crushing the primer indexing arm....

     

    Looking for any help or suggestions from the Enosphere.

    Thanks

    Scott

     

    Hunting Season double duty gear

    in Miscellaneous Topics That Do Not Fit in Any Other Forum

    Posted · Edited by Nik Habicht
    Edited to remove dead animal pictures. From the forum Guidelines: Please do not post "dead-animal pictures."

    Just going thru some photos from the past hunting season and thought I post this one. I used my Mossberg 930 that I normally use for 3 gun, without all the race gear on it. Converted back to a regular hunting shotgun with a extended Briley Imp. mod Choke, which has been just deadly on waterfowl. And shooting with my Rudy Magsters that I wear for competition shooting. You can get them at www.e-rudy.com and using the PISTOL code get 25% off.

    If I could just figure out how to improve my pistol shooting by using my 2 labs, boy that would really make me feel like I was getting double duty out of them too. :)

    Bending shotgun barrel to POA

    in Shotgun - Technical

    Posted

    Yes I tried different slugs and shot. Using the IC tube that came with the gun.

    Might be worth while to try a different IC tube, maybe an extended tube.

    Not running a clamp on the extension but that might be worth trying also.

    Thanks for the suggestions I'll give them a try this weekend.

    Scott

    Feed lip pliers

    in General Gunsmithing

    Posted

    can anyone tell me where I can get a set of feed lip adjustment pliers? Have been trying to find a set like Dawson sells with their race gun mag tuning kit but I don't need the whole kit to fix non-race gun mags.

    thanks

    38 Super Comp Pressure issue/question

    in 9mm/38 Caliber

    Posted

    WHERE is it bulged, exactly? Got a picture of the case? The brass is going to bulge out some in pretty much any workable chamber. The question is, can you get it back out with a sizing die or not... ;)

    I'll try and get a picture that shows it. Have not check to see if it resizes out, just started loading for it and working up a load.

    Thanks

    Scott

    38 Super Comp Pressure issue/question

    in 9mm/38 Caliber

    Posted

    I can verify the chambers on both of my .38SC guns haven't been messed with, and they both leave a slight bulge in the brass opposite the barrel hood. I've also had half a dozen people with new Open guns have me look at their brass because it looked exactly the same way....virtually identical in every case. My load is within pressure limits according to VV's guide, and surprisingly low when I ran it on Quickload. R,

    I have not ID'd the location of the bulge relative to the chamber but plan to do that on Thursday Night. I suspected it might be by the extractor but I might be wrong. I'll make some brass and let you know.

    Thanks

    Scott

    Well I finally had a chance to compare 4 different loads and the locations of the bulge. They are all at the 3 o'clock position looking at the back of the chamber. I loaded and shot from a 150 PF to a 180 PF and they all were in the same locations and the same size.

    This seems to be a slightly different location than others saw if I am understanding correctly their bulges are at the 6 oclock position if the chamber has been reamed to a larger size.

    Where were the bulges on the guns that were not reamed?

    thanks again for all the help!!

    Scott

    38 Super Comp Pressure issue/question

    in 9mm/38 Caliber

    Posted

    I can verify the chambers on both of my .38SC guns haven't been messed with, and they both leave a slight bulge in the brass opposite the barrel hood. I've also had half a dozen people with new Open guns have me look at their brass because it looked exactly the same way....virtually identical in every case. My load is within pressure limits according to VV's guide, and surprisingly low when I ran it on Quickload. R,

    So if I understand you correctly it is by the feed ramp?

    Thanks

    Scott

    38 Super Comp Pressure issue/question

    in 9mm/38 Caliber

    Posted

    Apparently there have been cases of people re-chambering their 9mm barrels to 38 Super or SC. Doing so will leave the chamber oversized at the bottom, by about 18 thousands.

    If you try to measure the chamber, be aware that most of the common calipers will do horrible job at that. A far better way is to try several pieces of shot brass, to find one that fits tightly, and measure its outside diameter.

    Understood, I have access to a machinist....they have all the neat tools....some of it he even lets me play machinist on!!! :)

    By the Bottom you are talking about the chamber closest to the rifling correct?

    Thanks

    38 Super Comp Pressure issue/question

    in 9mm/38 Caliber

    Posted

    I can verify the chambers on both of my .38SC guns haven't been messed with, and they both leave a slight bulge in the brass opposite the barrel hood. I've also had half a dozen people with new Open guns have me look at their brass because it looked exactly the same way....virtually identical in every case. My load is within pressure limits according to VV's guide, and surprisingly low when I ran it on Quickload. R,

    I have not ID'd the location of the bulge relative to the chamber but plan to do that on Thursday Night. I suspected it might be by the extractor but I might be wrong. I'll make some brass and let you know.

    Thanks

    Scott

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