[New Colt 10 shot .22]

I just saw this picture of the new Colt 10 shot cylinder, there is no recess for the cartridge rims. That seems really dangerous for rimfire! All my other .22's have a recessed area to protect the rims from being discharged. I'm sure the odds are slim that someone would accidentally hit the cylinder with something hard when it is loaded up and the cylinder is open, but that's how bad stuff happens. What are your thoughts?

 

 

[New Colt 10 shot .22]

1 hour ago, rooster mcbee said:

Where did you order from?  I've been looking all over!

I ordered it from Williams Gun Sight Inc., besides their sight manufacturing business they also have a fairly large retail store and it's 20 miles from me. They didn't have any .22 10 shot Colts in stock but the salesman said he could order one, they don't know when it will come in, hopefully soon but it could take awhile.

[New Colt 10 shot .22]

I just ordered a 4.25" 10 shot King Cobra, $965.95, I was surprised to hear they listed 3 barrel lengths, 2.5", 4.25" and 6".

 

I'll post pics when it comes in.

[New Colt 10 shot .22]

I saw a retail list of $999.00 and someone else had it for $849.00.

[New Colt 10 shot .22]

This new 10 shot might be an alternative for a 617 for speed sports. The cylinder appears to be the same size as the 617's so I hope my loaders will fit. Hopefully the trigger is smooth and fast and not a super long DA pull like my GP100 .22. I might have to order one.

[Replaced my cylinder on my 10 shot 617]

7 hours ago, AzShooter said:

Dave you do fantastic work.  Good luck with your new cylinder.

 

BTW your DS-10s are the best speed loader I've ever used.  I like the new model a lot and they are much faster to load with.

 

Thanks AZ, it worked so well I'm tempted to convert my rarely used 617-0 six shot to a ten shot, just need a new hand and another cylinder.

 

[Thoughts on the LPA rear sight?]

I have one on my 617-2, I like it but I had to modify the LPA to work with the stock front sight. I don't like taller front sights so I milled out some material on the base of the LPA to get it sighted in. I first tried it on my 4" 617-6 (in first picture) but it was still a little high, it worked better on my 6" 617-2.

 

[Replaced my cylinder on my 10 shot 617]

My first attempt at replacing my problematic 617-6 cylinder was a complete success and the ratchet job I did looks much better than the job S&W did several years ago when they replaced my 617-2 cylinder. I'm no gunsmith but I'm able to improvise pretty well.

A brand new cylinder comes with uncut ratchets and needs to be fitted to the hand.

I first made a jig to hold the cylinder and file in the right place. I drilled a hole to the same length of the cylinder and installed two adjustable 1 degree tapered alignment pins to hold the cylinder in line. There is an HDPE adjustable rail to slide the file block back and forth to cut the ratchets. The file is pressed into an HDPE block slot cut on a bandsaw. I placed a piece of 0.0015" SS sheet stock under the file to protect the cylinder and ratchet. Empty rounds were placed in the cylinder to keep it tight when cutting. Each ratchet was carefully cut and tested until the hand would just pass and not bind. It took a couple hours to cut all 10 and it worked out great. I shot it several times and the accuracy is great.

 

If I use this jig again I will make a clamp to hold down the cylinder tight and increase the length of the block that holds the file so the file doesn't flex so much. The ratchets on a ten shot are so close together that I can only move the file about 1/8" before it hits the adjacent one.

 

[Red dot covers]

I saw these on another forum. I've needed some of these for my FF3's. They will be great to keep the glass clean, especially when cleaning the gun.

https://dreamplastics.com/product-category/scope-covers/

[NAA Mini Revolver Pics]

2 minutes ago, caspian guy said:

Are those speed loaders an orderable item?

Go here:

 

https://desertgunleather.com/collections/naa-accessories

[NAA Mini Revolver Pics]

Here's a couple I have.

[Best way to shorten a strain screw?]

I made some tiny washers out of a sheet 0.010" shim stock (I think that was the thickness), then added 1 or 2 on the strain screw to get the desired results. Not easy to make but it worked, I first drilled holes the right size in the shim stock then cut out with scissors. This lets you torque it down normally and is adjustable.

[S&W 617 for Steel Challenge]

1 hour ago, pskys2 said:

Been down to the last 2 Kansas Free State USPSA matches, both times had a full Revolver Squad, and edged me out BOTH TIMES!  Wrote a short ditty on Facebook in 2020, smoething about Baba Yaga!  And a full article in Front Sight a couple of issues back.

 

He's still a tough competitor, great guy and a hoot to be around.

I met him at Revo Weekend 2009, I think that's Mike getting ready. I'm holding the purple ribbon in the group pic.

I've also got some PG13 pics of Cliff too.

 

[S&W 617 for Steel Challenge]

13 hours ago, Sniperboy said:

I think it may have been someone else who did the video.  Thanks for taking the time to post the inforgraphic.

No problem, my first loaders made their debut on this forum 17 years ago with Mike Carmony being the very first customer.

 

Is MIke still around?

[S&W 617 for Steel Challenge]

59 minutes ago, Sniperboy said:

Do you have a video or instructions on how the DS-10s work?  Ie. loading and unloading.

Is the 9 year old youtube video still applicable?

I'm not sure what video you are referring to, I never made a video. Here is an old picture with older models that still applies.

You can fill the loaders by hand or from a loading box or block by placing the loader over the filled block and push the outer rim down.

Then simply insert the filled loader in the cylinder and push the top of the loader. I recommend holding the cylinder with your other hand to remove stress on the crane.

 

I also included a picture with my older PBT (push button top) model below.

[S&W 617 for Steel Challenge]

On 1/25/2022 at 12:30 PM, 10mmdave said:

If you're looking for something to hold all those speed loaders

(Sorry the pic's are so big, I have to work on that)

10mm, I didn't know you made these, they make my loaders look "sexy"! Nice job!

[S&W 617 for Steel Challenge]

4 hours ago, Endurokids said:

 I like the price of the DS-10 but wonder about quality and function long term?

After 17 years I've never had one fail to function with normal use. Some other things to consider is cartridge retention, required loading force, size and weight. DS loaders were the first to develop staggered length push pins to reduce the loading force in half, they require 5 lbs or less to insert the rounds. I've seen some other loaders without staggered push pins that can require up to 14 lbs of force on the cylinder/crane. I recommend holding the cylinder with any push type loader to minimize damage to the crane. The small DS loaders weigh only 0.5 ounces each and are made of a softer HDPE material, at first the material choice was made for the ease of making them but when others started making them out of hard plastic and aluminum I soon realized the softer material has improved cartridge retention (the garter spring pushes the round slightly into the softer center). The lasted design improves on that concept by reducing the size of the inner contact point to get a slightly deeper "retention dent". Here I go again telling the other guys how to improve their designs, oh well, these type loaders are a necessity for .22 revolver speed sports.

 

I like to carry a bunch in a pouch so lighter and smaller is a plus for me.

The designs are pretty simple and they all will do the job regardless of which loader you buy.

 

https://ds10speed.wordpress.com/

[S&W 617 for Steel Challenge]

On 1/25/2022 at 7:31 AM, Endurokids said:

I'm looking for recommendations on speed loaders that work, front sight replacement (fiber optic preferred) and reduced trigger springs that wont cause light strikes.

I'm trying to get it set up correctly without a lot of experimentation, if possible. It's a S&W revolver .22 cal, 10 shot.

Thanks in advance!

Did you get the 4" or 6"? I have both, I put a Burris FF3 on the 4" and shoot the 6" with iron sights.

[S&W 617 for Steel Challenge]

7 hours ago, 10mmdave said:

 

Well when you have that many loaders then ya, a carry pouch looks required

I might actually might have enough ammo to fill all the loaders I have on hand right now, my winter loader stock varies from 300 to 500.

[S&W 617 for Steel Challenge]

I've gone with loader holders before, I even made adapters for Safariland holders, but I found a shot shell pouch (similar to the one below) works better for me. It gives me a pouch to dump the cylinder and the empty loaders.

[S&W 617 for Steel Challenge]

I'm not fan of super light triggers on a .22 revolvers, I'll lighten the rebound spring to maybe a 13 or 14 lbs after the action is broken in good, if you get it too light then the return isn't fast enough for speed sports. I don't change the hammer spring on my 617's, I like reliable ignition with all ammo brands. For steel matches I use a shot shell belt carrier with 2 pouches, I use one pouch for full loaders and the other one for cylinder unloads and empty loaders. I can easily carry 10 of these really light speed loaders.

[New speedloader brand]

Neat job of engineering, that's the fun part of a new design. Time will tell if it was worth it just to reduce a little lump in your pocket.

[How the heck do you clean the crap out from between the top of the barrel, and the bottom of the top strap?]

I prefer to use something that is harder than lead and softer than the frame to minimize scratching the gun. I make scrapers from spent brass rifle cartridges, I just squash the end flat and file and shape for the intended purpose. I first apply a lead solvent and let it soak a few minutes.

[If they recognized it, would you shoot it ?]

2 hours ago, revolver45 said:

Thanks for that information.  Quite interesting. Do you have a website for your products? Please advise. 

Go to Revolver Supply.

 

Also: https://ds10speed.wordpress.com/

[If they recognized it, would you shoot it ?]

The number of 10 shot .22 speed loaders out there may be an indication of how many shooters that may be interested in .22 revolver divisions. Since 2005 I think I have made almost 10K loaders, add to that 10 shot loaders made by others. Most have 1 to 5 loaders each, that's a minimum of 2000 shooters out there ready to go. I would think separate divisions might bring them out to compete. I know I do more local bowling pin and steel plate matches because they have .22 revolver divisions.