Most manufactures do not do a trigger job on a new gun

[xinnix]

I purchased a Range officer and replaced the ignition system and did a complete trigger job on the new sear and hammer and stoned the disconnecter with a fine Arkansas stone on any part that contact another. I set the trigger pull to 3.2 pounds. This is a target only 1911. After doing the trigger job I started to notice that I had a lot of creep on my other 1911's, two of them were Les Baers. I pulled the one apart and was shocked to see that thre was no trigger job. It was like taking the ignition system out of the bag and putting them in the gun and that was it. They did not even break the edge on the sear leaf spring where it contacts the disconnector. The hammer struts were made of blued steel and wobbled all over the place. If I never learned how to do a trigger job Like I did on the range officer and find out what a good trigger feels like I would of been happy with all of my 1911's. After asking around and then calling Kimber No production gun and at least Les Baer's do not do any trigger work when making a pistol. It is for their liability in case a guy is not used to a three pound trigger and has only shot 5 pound triggers like most guns come off the line at.

So in short I would recommend a stoning of the sear, check the hammer for 90 deg. hooks and check all of the pins for wear and in the case of the Baers I am replacing the hammer strut to the Titanium I have used in the past. Chances are after doing the trigger work you will need to replace and fit a new thumb safety. I really like the Brownell's #965-600-007

6BN NARROW BLUE EXT. THUMB SAFETY Wilson Combat. It took a lot to properly fit it in the Range officer bt was well worth it.

I would recommend that you check all of your 1911 for trigger work and if you know how fix them or take it to a qualified gunsmith to have the trigger work done.

Good luck.

Edited August 2, 2012 by xinnix

[BillD]

I take mine to a gunsmith. I've found that taking a file, stone or dremel to a gun results in large financial losses or increased pay to the gunsmith.

[xinnix]

That is why I purchased video's books and learned from a gunsmith how to do my own trigger jobs on 1911's. It is not rocket science. As long as you know what you are doing and spend the time to learn there is a lot of money saved and it is just another part of the hobby and sport of shooting.

[BillD]

That would be where you and I disagree.

Shooting is my hobby, not reloading, not gunsmithing.

I like to shoot.

When asked a technical question about his sniper rifle, Carlos Hathcocks armorer responded for him...He doesn't know how they work, he just shoots them.

I have no desire to work on my guns.

Works for me.

[xinnix]

That is great. I enjoy the whole reloading and understanding the mechanics and being able to shoot 2 in groups at 50 yards with a 1911 because of the work that I did.

To each there own.

Enjoy shooting and lets hope we never loose that right.

[digby7]

That is why I purchased video's books and learned from a gunsmith how to do my own trigger jobs on 1911's. It is not rocket science. As long as you know what you are doing and spend the time to learn there is a lot of money saved and it is just another part of the hobby and sport of shooting.

What specific books did you read to learn this?

[chaosshooter00]

That is why I purchased video's books and learned from a gunsmith how to do my own trigger jobs on 1911's. It is not rocket science. As long as you know what you are doing and spend the time to learn there is a lot of money saved and it is just another part of the hobby and sport of shooting.

What specific books did you read to learn this?

What he said.

[xinnix]

The best books were JERRY KUHNHAUSEN THE U.S. M1911/M1911A1 PISTOLS A SHOP MANUAL Volume 1 and 2. The other reading material was the instruction manuals for the Brownell's sear jig and the instruction manual on the Ed browns sear jig. I bought the Brownell's first and did not like it. I photo copied the instructions and then bought the Ed Browns jig.I also leaned a lot on a double instruction series on You Tube by Terry B at Impact Guns. He did a complete trigger job on a 1911 and he explained what he was doing and why. I studied these videos a lot and learned a lot from them.

I have a friend on another forum that owns his own gun shop and does internet business and walk in business. He has helped me so much with all of the recommendations. He suggested the Range Officer and what parts to buy to replace the stock ignition set that was in the pistol. He recommended that I buy a C&S drop in 3.5 pound kit. And that is when I bought all of the tools to do a complete trigger job myself. If I had any question I would PM my friend and would get an answer the same day. He has another gunsmith that works for him that used to work for Les Baer. I learned a lot and have worked on all 5 of the 1911 that I have and the triggers are set to the pounds pull for the gun application. For the two S.D. pistols I set the triggers to 5 pounds. on the range guns I have, two Les Baers and The Range Officer I have the trigger st between 3.2 pounds to 3.5 pounds. I set the range officer lighter just experimenting and had it at 2.75 pounds and did not like it. It was to light. I adjusted it back to 3.2 pounds. I have been lucky with all of the work I have done and never had a gun run away on my. I always start with 2 bullets a few times and then three bullets for at least 6 times 18 bullets and then go to four and do the same 5 rounds of four. Then I was sure that it was safe and was not going to empty the magazine with one trigger pull. I have seen this one time. It was on a bulls eye league. When the command was given to load the guys gun shot all 5 bullets without ever pulling the trigger.

I have worked on 5 of my own 1911's. Some I replaced the ignition system others I have changed the sear leaf spring to the colt springs. I like them. They are lighter and I like the way they split disconnector and the hammer fingers so there is a gap wear hammer strut goes. I am also changing both of the Baer hammer strut. the stock ones were surprisingly not as good as I have used in other pistols. I have two on order from Dawson Precision the 1911 AUTO TITANIUM HAMMER STRUT made by STI. The have a good fit in the hammer and do not flap in the breeze or twist under pressure. I am also going to change the main spring from 23 pounds to 19 pounds. I only did this on the gunsmiths recommendation. I have short fingers and the best thing I have done is replaced the triggers to the Wilson Combat shot trigger. You can also adjust this trigger for how much movement you have. You can adjust the over travel screw. then you can adjust the trigger on how far it move towards the barrel by bending the two wings that are cut in the bow.

If you have any questions feel free to ask. I am disabled and cannot work anymore. I have had 6 major back surgeries, the last one was December 9th on 2011. Since then I cannot hoot on the bulls eye league any more. I have always had hobbies. Now it is collecting good pistols. mostly 1911's. I then started reloading and reload for 9mm 38 357 and 45ACP. I have a Dillon XL 650. I can still do this o I am happy. I wanted to start learning more about the 1911 and that is what has brought me to this stage where I have learned how to do trigger work on my 1911's and make them btter shooting pistols. I have also got over the fear of using a non marring punch to remove the sights on the slide and replace them with Dawson Precision fiber optic sights. I put a set n my Kimber stainless ultra carry II and it has mad a huge difference. I have an order in right now for front and rear fiber optic sights for the Springfield Range Officer. I will do that next week. I always thought you needed the $150.00 sight pushers. I spent 8.00 on a non marring punch from Brownell's and and use a ball peen hammer and they come out without any damage to the slide. I have fitted the new sights and installed them. It made the kimber a lot easier to shoot. The stock sites were really bad. Same with the Range Officer. It will be nice to have the fiber optic on the front and rear. Dawson makes a great sight..

I enjoy being able to work on a trigger on a gun and get rid of all the creep, now when you gently squeeze the trigger it is a complete surprise when the gun fires. This makes me a lot more accurate. On the 45 Les Baer I was used to the creep and there was a slight feeling just before the hammer would fall. So your brain knew when it was going to shoot and it would cause you hand muscles to move ever so slightly, Now that it breaks and it is a complete surprise my groups have gotten a lot tighter.

If anyone know of better reading material than Jerry's books let me now, The more you read the more you learn and the better you get.

[Silentbutdeadly]

That is great. I enjoy the whole reloading and understanding the mechanics and being able to shoot 2 in groups at 50 yards with a 1911 because of the work that I did.

To each there own.

Enjoy shooting and lets hope we never loose that right.

Amen to that.....

[Quack]

I hope you learned from Terry G. If you saw the later nutnfancy video, they had to put the stock parts back in because the 1911 had hammer follow, which was after Terry G's "trigger job"

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[xinnix]

I did see this and they were not using the best parts to rebuild an ignition system, It was not a kit but individual parts. I only replaced one ignition system and used a C&S kit. I also felt he had to little trigger movement when he installed the trigger. I had this problem one time. I increased the trigger movement by bending the arms back in on the trigger bow and the problem went away. Out of the five 1911 that I have worked on that has been the only problem.

I am off to the range shortly to sight in mt new Dawson Precision F.O. sights on my Springfield Range Officer. This is the pistol that I have replaced everything, It is one of my best shooting guns except for the Les Baer target pistol SWC 45ACP with the scope mount using an ultra Dot sight. The nutnfancy video were informative but the books I mentioned and the instruction that came with the sear jigs were also very informative.

Have a great day, The range opens in 30 minutes so I am off.

Have a good Day.

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I hope you learned from Terry G. If you saw the later nutnfancy video, they had to put the stock parts back in because the 1911 had hammer follow, which was after Terry G's "trigger job"

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