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No worries! My app glitched and triple posted a couple posts back, so [emoji2369]Sorry for the poor reading comprehension, as you mentioned that in the original posting [emoji853]
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The rifle I'm shooting right now has an rt6 on it. I like it, but I think I'd like something different more. The bdc reticle in it is calibrated for 55gr bullets running 3200fps, and I can't even get close to that with my 16" barrel. With 69gr bullets, they line up at 2900fps, which I also don't think I can do.Surprised no one mentioned the Burris RT-6, which was recommended on this site a while back. Based on that recommendation I purchased one and am pleased with it. Check out the reviews, and its back in stock again, after Burris held up distribution due to some issue.
Mark
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Thank you for putting it that way. That's way more productive. I hadn't really considered shooting factory, but I easily could with a plug in the shotgun and downloading my pistol mags to 15 rounds. I'm going to shoot a couple some rifles with 1x optics and a couple different 1-6x optics next weekend, and I'll decide from there.Take this advice as being worth exactly what you paid for it (i.e., nothing), but here's a more philosophical argument instead of the usual "you should buy X scope, because I have one and I like it" responses:
I'd argue that the real question isn't "which of the optics should you buy", but "how seriously are you going to take 3 gun over the long term?" $400 will buy an absolute top-of-the-line 1x optic with room to spare. If you buy, for example, a Vortex Spitfire (generally agreed to be the best 1x competition optic on the market, and my personal experience supports that consensus), you will almost certainly never need to upgrade with anything until you decide to jump divisions and start shooting with a variable optic. On the other hand, there aren't any great options for variable optics in the $400 price range. There are a few that work well enough for the occasional "just for fun" match, but the one thing that they all have in common is that you ARE going to want to upgrade them if you keep shooting over the long term. If you're just dipping your toes in, and you're not sure that you'll still be shooting a year from now, then a $400 Strike Eagle or Primary Arms scope is probably good enough. But you think that you might be in this for the long haul, that cheap scope just adds $400 to the price of the $700-$1700 scope that you WILL buy eventually.
What I would do - and I'm not you, so my priorities might not be the same as yours - is buy a Spitfire (or whatever high-end 1x optic floats your boat) now, and compete in Limited/Tac Irons/whatever for however long it takes you to save up the money for a higher-quality variable optic. You'll be giving absolutely nothing up to anyone in that division, where a $400 variable optic is going to put you at a disadvantage to people running better glass in Tac Optics.
General consensus is that the Vortex Viper Gen II is about the cheapest variable optic that doesn't carry any major disadvantages, and those typically sell for ~$700, and I've seen them get down into the $500s during major sale events in the past. More pennies than you're interested in spending, I'm sure, but maybe still feasible to save up for over a relatively short time.
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Thank you for putting it that way. That's way more productive. I hadn't really considered shooting factory, but I easily could with a plug in the shotgun and downloading my pistol mags to 15 rounds. I'm going to shoot a couple some rifles with 1x optics and a couple different 1-6x optics next weekend, and I'll decide from there.Take this advice as being worth exactly what you paid for it (i.e., nothing), but here's a more philosophical argument instead of the usual "you should buy X scope, because I have one and I like it" responses:
I'd argue that the real question isn't "which of the optics should you buy", but "how seriously are you going to take 3 gun over the long term?" $400 will buy an absolute top-of-the-line 1x optic with room to spare. If you buy, for example, a Vortex Spitfire (generally agreed to be the best 1x competition optic on the market, and my personal experience supports that consensus), you will almost certainly never need to upgrade with anything until you decide to jump divisions and start shooting with a variable optic. On the other hand, there aren't any great options for variable optics in the $400 price range. There are a few that work well enough for the occasional "just for fun" match, but the one thing that they all have in common is that you ARE going to want to upgrade them if you keep shooting over the long term. If you're just dipping your toes in, and you're not sure that you'll still be shooting a year from now, then a $400 Strike Eagle or Primary Arms scope is probably good enough. But you think that you might be in this for the long haul, that cheap scope just adds $400 to the price of the $700-$1700 scope that you WILL buy eventually.
What I would do - and I'm not you, so my priorities might not be the same as yours - is buy a Spitfire (or whatever high-end 1x optic floats your boat) now, and compete in Limited/Tac Irons/whatever for however long it takes you to save up the money for a higher-quality variable optic. You'll be giving absolutely nothing up to anyone in that division, where a $400 variable optic is going to put you at a disadvantage to people running better glass in Tac Optics.
General consensus is that the Vortex Viper Gen II is about the cheapest variable optic that doesn't carry any major disadvantages, and those typically sell for ~$700, and I've seen them get down into the $500s during major sale events in the past. More pennies than you're interested in spending, I'm sure, but maybe still feasible to save up for over a relatively short time.
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Thank you for putting it that way. That's way more productive. I hadn't really considered shooting factory, but I easily could with a plug in the shotgun and downloading my pistol mags to 15 rounds. I'm going to shoot a couple some rifles with 1x optics and a couple different 1-6x optics next weekend, and I'll decide from there.Take this advice as being worth exactly what you paid for it (i.e., nothing), but here's a more philosophical argument instead of the usual "you should buy X scope, because I have one and I like it" responses:
I'd argue that the real question isn't "which of the optics should you buy", but "how seriously are you going to take 3 gun over the long term?" $400 will buy an absolute top-of-the-line 1x optic with room to spare. If you buy, for example, a Vortex Spitfire (generally agreed to be the best 1x competition optic on the market, and my personal experience supports that consensus), you will almost certainly never need to upgrade with anything until you decide to jump divisions and start shooting with a variable optic. On the other hand, there aren't any great options for variable optics in the $400 price range. There are a few that work well enough for the occasional "just for fun" match, but the one thing that they all have in common is that you ARE going to want to upgrade them if you keep shooting over the long term. If you're just dipping your toes in, and you're not sure that you'll still be shooting a year from now, then a $400 Strike Eagle or Primary Arms scope is probably good enough. But you think that you might be in this for the long haul, that cheap scope just adds $400 to the price of the $700-$1700 scope that you WILL buy eventually.
What I would do - and I'm not you, so my priorities might not be the same as yours - is buy a Spitfire (or whatever high-end 1x optic floats your boat) now, and compete in Limited/Tac Irons/whatever for however long it takes you to save up the money for a higher-quality variable optic. You'll be giving absolutely nothing up to anyone in that division, where a $400 variable optic is going to put you at a disadvantage to people running better glass in Tac Optics.
General consensus is that the Vortex Viper Gen II is about the cheapest variable optic that doesn't carry any major disadvantages, and those typically sell for ~$700, and I've seen them get down into the $500s during major sale events in the past. More pennies than you're interested in spending, I'm sure, but maybe still feasible to save up for over a relatively short time.
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The guy who recommended the Athlon prism scope is a huge fan of their products. I believe that's what is on his practical division rifle. How would you compare it to the other scopes in the price range?
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Apparently my post got cut off. I guess the less than symbol does that...
Most of the matches we shoot are less than 125yds, but we shoot some state level matches that have shots out to 425yds. I feel like I would be faster 90% of the time with a dedicated 1x optic, but everyone in the practical division uses a 1-6 or 1-8, so there has to be something to that. I also don't want to give up the help on those rare long shots. Someone give me some insight please
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Hey guys, I know this topic gets thrown around a lot, so I'm sorry. When I started shooting 3-gun last year, I knew so little about what i needed or wanted in gear that it made buying easy. After a year of shooting, I figured I would know exactly what I want, but it's just harder to decide now. I'm picking up a second rifle because my girlfriend and I have been sharing one, and I can't decide on the optic to put on it. We use a Burris RT6 now, and it's fine. I like the glass in the vortex stuff better though. I'm also strongly considering a prism scope. Most of the matches that we shoot are
Right now the candidates are:
Vortex strike eagle 1-6 or 1-8 (1-8 isn't as clear on 8x as 1-6 on 6x)
Primary Arms 1-6
Athlon Midas BTR 1x Prism scope
Vortex spitfire 1x (super clear, great reticle clarity, and almost disappears in my FOV)
Vortex Sparc (only $80 if I bundle it with the rifle)
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Got it! Heated it with a torch and used an open end wrench to get a solid square hit on it. So much junk under it.
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The gas block on my rifle is super stuck. any suggestions for getting it off? It's currently soaking in Kroil. I tried hitting the back of it with a dead deadblow hammer with no luck.
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My thoughts too. And they have a package deal through the end of the month with either a sig romeo 5 or a vortex sparc ar for $730.Be hard to find a complete rifle with that setup for unde that price. Did a quick google search and most entry 3gun rifles are $900 plus. Don’t even think you could put one together for cheaper than that. May not be the flattest shooting but as your budget allows upgrade trigger, comp and and whatever optics.
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Hey guys, have any of you had any experience with Ruger's MPR for 3-gun? I'd love to have something nicer, but I'm trying to keep a tight budget. It seems like a fairly well featured rifle for the $650 that sportsmans outdoor superstore has them up for right now. If you know of any reliability issues or quality control issues, let me know. I don't love the 2 stage trigger, or the comp, but an 18" 5R barrel, rifle length gas system, and a slim 15" handguard is a good start
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I never even considered zeroing like that. :facepalm: before 3 gun, bdc reticles were foreign to me. Definitely setting that up when I check my zero before the next match.I zero my scope at 300 yards with the 300 yard mark, since that's as far as I have available. If I had a 400 yard range, I'd zero it the same way. The longer the distance you can zero at, the better.
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It's on the list. I'm shopping for an entire new rifle actually. My girlfriend and I shoot on a snug budget because we're buying a cnc mill in the spring, so we actually both share a cheap diamondback db15 with some upgrades, and it's really hard on the rifle. I'm considering the ruger ar556 mpr so I can buy-in for cheap, and upgrade over time.ive always liked 77 smk or 77 tmk. you might think about getting a faster twist barrel someday. i was same as toothandnail, never had to change zero for the close stuff
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How are those for you? I looked at those, and they should be close for my reticle.With a 9 inch twist, the 68 or 69 grain bullets will work, Hornady 75 BTHP might work. I've been shooting either 55 VMax or 55 Nosler Ballistic Tips at Rocky Mountain 3 Gun since 2011, out to 550 yards.
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Which 55gr? Just fmj's?55 Hornadys for everything out to 600 or so unless you need the oomph to knock something over at distance.
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Those seem to be priced pretty well. Using 69gr load data, my ballistic calculator shows 3 inches less drop at 400, and 12 inches less at 500 than my current 55gr. Should be a goog option if the rifle likes them.The Hornady 68gr BTHP bullets are pretty cheap and would work fine in a 1:9 twist barrel.
Out past 300 yards the heavier match bullets make it much easier.
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Hey guys, I'm currently shooting 55gr hornady fmj-bt w/cannelures over 25.5gr of CFE223 for everything from 5yd paper hosing out to the 430yd steel at a match this last weekend. I struggled to hit that 12"x12" plate at that range with that ammo, so I'm looking to get some better bullets to load up for stages with targets past 200yds. Currently looking at hornady v-maxes in 53gr, 55gr, and 60gr because they're still fairly cheap relative to a 69gr or 77gr SMK. My barrel is only a 1 in 9 also, so I'm afraid it wouldn't stabilize the longer bullets. What do you guys load up for longer range stages?
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Yep! And I'm pretty sure crack would be a cheaper addiction too!Hello from PA. I see you found that 3 gun is more addicting then crack cocaine
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Hello all,
Just wanted to introduce myself. My name is Ryan Warner. I started shooting 3-gun around the north central WV area late last year and got hooked immediately! I look forward to learning what you guys have shared on here.
Happy shooting!
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