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If you can afford it a custom action like Surgeon, Defiance, Impact 737r, Curtis Customs Axiom, etc. are the only way to go. If you'd rather build a rifle slowly, you can't beat a 700. The aftermarket.... market is huge and parts are more than readily available.
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If you want a Remington you'll either get lucky and get one that shoots or it won't. It's basically 50/50. You'd likely spend almost enough to get a custom action if you trued it and all that good stuff. I would say go to a range were from PRS type shooters shoot often and ask if you can get behind their rifles and dry fire or shoot them. Most will not mind as most PRS shooters are awesome about getting new guys into it. From there figure out what you like and don't like (stocks, triggers, reticles, actions, etc.- almost all of that is personal preference). Then spend the money and do it right the first time, shoot about 5 barrels out and you'll be a damn good shooter. Don't ever chase velocity, remember its just a number on the elevation turret (assuming good dope).
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400 yards 10" plate. Pulled my Atlas bipod off my rifle and used a rear bag under the grip lol.
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On 8/2/2017 at 12:42 AM, b2948kevin said:
Hmm... That hasn't been my experience. The guys I shoot PRS with are super meticulous. Bullet pointing, neck turning, annealing, weight sorting, the whole nine yards. Common thought around these guys is that if you're in that weird position taking a shot, and you don't have your loads dialed you'll always wonder if if was you, or your load.
Regardless though, hats off to people with skills. I am pretty decent, but I learn or re-learn where I am weak in every match :). Sometimes it's my loads, most of the time, it's just me making dumb mistakes.
Tell those guys to spend less time reloading and more time shooting and their scores will improve. PRS rifles typically shoot 1/2" or better at 100 yards with 10 or less stand deviation. This is not hard to accomplish with decent equipment at the reloading bench. I hate reloading and shoot PRS. I spend at little time there as possible and I can tell you right now when I miss its not the ammo or reloading, bullet sorting, brass sorting, primer weighing (lol), etc....
To add to this conversation, guys like Payne, Horner and a couple other AMU guys would be awesome picks, however I think Dave Preston, Justin Vinyard, Jake Vibbert, Matt Brousseau and the A-Team (Allen's) like would be better picks.
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Get the Ruger and be done with it. 6.5 creed or 6cm will get to a mile no problem. .338lm and .50 are retarded expensive to shoot (even when reloading) and there are much better options that either of those two calibers for ELR (extreme long range). I would definitely get in a short action caliber or a 6 or 6.5 and shoo the heck outta it. Don't skimp on the optic, be prepared to spend at least 1000$ on a good quality optic to get you to the distance you want to shoot.
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Go/no go make sure it head spaced correctly and go from there
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This is copied and pasted from an article Jim See wrote about how to effectively practice while not shooting a ton. I use a modified version of this and usually only shoot 25-30 rounds.
Match Skills, Practice processes: (40 rounds)
Barricade drills;
Approach barricade, build a solid position, and fire 10 rounds at a 2-3 moa target from different positions on barricade. DO NOT time yourself. Once you can produce consistent hits start timing yourself at 2 minutes. Your goal is to build a solid position first, then engage your targets. Rushing through this program initially won't allow you to realize how stable you can be, when you take your time. As you master the barricade put a clock on it. 10rnds
Prone accuracy training;
If you feel like you are anticipating each shot with an involuntary reaction, dry fire from prone. Process; set- up and aim on target using a stiff/hard rear bag, close your eyes for 3 seconds, dry fire, than open your eyes. Your cross-hair should still be on a 1 moa target.
Live fire practice on 200-400 yard targets that are 1 moa and smaller, I like ¾ moa. The shorter range takes some of the wind reading out of the equation but forces you to aim small and follow through each shot. Concentrate on a smooth trigger pull, proper bag and cheek pressure will maintain your aim. This is where you work on your fundamentals of marksmanship. On my range this drill is incorporated on a KYL rack, that way I shoot the bigger targets first to get a good wind call, and finish up with my last 6 shots on the smallest target. 10rnds
Speed drills;
5 targets on a rack, start prone mag in bolt back, engage each target with one shot each in 20 seconds, 1.5 moa target size. 5rnds
Practice speed in conjunction with a troop line shot near too far and back. 3 targets 2 moa, 5 shots in 30 seconds, engage; near, middle, far, middle, near, you will use hold overs. 5rnds
Both these drills will help you learn to shoot with-out thinking about the fundamentals; trigger squeeze, cheek and shoulder pressure, bolt manipulation, breathing, should become second nature. If you have not mastered these fundamentals you will struggle with these drills.First stage nervousness;
This is a common problem. To help eliminate it, use your practice trips as a real match start. What I mean is rather than do your normal routine of shooting dope or zero, have a buddy run you through a stage; cold bore/cold shooter under time constraints. That’s what happens in a match why would you not practice it?? 10 rnds
The art of building an internal clock in your physical system is totally an act of routine. If you use matches to train for this it will take you years, or you will never obtain the skill. If you practice and set a clock for every mock stage, you will speed up the process, it took me 2 years to develop my internal stop watch.
Recognizing your weakness;
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I do something very similar but with a precision rifle. Usually use 1/2” dots at 100 yards. Or if I’m limited to 100 yards I’ll use 1” dots and shoot unsupported positional stuff.
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I was shooting a match today and my can (suppressor) ended up having a tube failure. It ended my day. No one was hurt.
Baffles we’re still in tact, tube failed at a
thread. I put the rifle in my car and RO’ed and helped new shooters the rest of the day.
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Sick!!
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MPA is great stuff. You won’t find a nicer guy or someone who strives to stay at the forefront of chassis advancement thank Phil.
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The issue with a .308 and a semi auto is recoil. AR platforms recoil takes forever in comparison to a bolt gun with a brake.
Precision rifle competitions are a game of 2 things: wind and recoil management. Semi auto’s stuff with the later. Also, just about everyone can shoot prone, I’d suggest going to practice positional stuff.
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RRS if you can afford it, Gitzo is a touch cheaper, and Feisol is best value for the buck.
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New guy from Oklahoma, I know some stuff about Shooting stuff far away.
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another vote for Tikka. Toss it in a KRG W-3 and you'll have a shooter! (They shoot great stock but the ergo's aren't for me).