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On July 10, 2017 at 6:52 AM, Mig9 said:
Thanks. Maybe I should buy the grams kits. If anyone can recommend it or not please comment.
Here is my experience with a couple of things discussed so far.
SIGHTS: my gun shot really low and left, like 6" at 15 yards. I was able get it zeroed by adjusting the rear only up and to the right . It is really accurate.
RECOIL SPRING: I got the Springer SS guide rod and I have settled on the 11# spring for 132 power factor 147 grn 9mm. I started out with the 14#. Then shot a USPSA match with the 12 and really liked it, but today I tried the 11 and believe thats the one for me. If not it's the 12#.
TRIGGER: I polished, took a sear spring out, and I put in the curved Gray Guns PELT trigger. It's measuring around 4.75 pounds. I like the trigger a lot. It is clean and crisp and while it could be lighter it is not holding me back at all. The reset is not as tactile as the stock trigger but after shooting it I see no negative effect, especially fast shooting. By the way the reset feel improved after about 1,000 rounds. I don't know the pull weight before the changes - I suspect 6.5-7.
MAGS: I shoot Production so I took out the magwell and I added the Springer Precision basepads.
SLIDE RELEASE: I changed mine to the smallest made since sometimes I would not go to slide lock due to my thumb placement.
Hope this helps.
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On July 9, 2017 at 11:32 PM, z40acp said:
Do a WTB here. I bet a lot of shooters have replaced with grams and the originals are new.
Thanks. Sorry for my ignorance but do I do that by starting a new topic? Not sure how to do that. Thanks.
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7 hours ago, GJ710 said:
Am I the only one crazy running an 11lb spring? Gun is broken in and has a few thousand rounds through it. Only shot about 300 rounds in the 11lb spring training and a USPSA match. 0 malfunctions. Tried 14 and still thought it was oversprung, same with 13#. Just hope the slide isn't battering the frame. Shoots very flat. Using freedom 124gr. Their power factor is in the 130+ for the most part.
I shot about 10,000 rounds through my P320 full size with an 11# spring with no problems. Now I'm going to try the 11 on the X5 thanks to you. So I don't think you're crazy.
I'm never completely sure I have the right spring. I test by doing bill drills and 10 and 25 yards and comparing the spread and also by shooting some rounds carefully watching the sights. I can see if the front dipped or if I had to push it down. But I think there is an element of anticipation that may affect the results (you may let the gun come down with a heavier spring vs push down more with a lighter spring. Last practice I just went with the one that felt better.
Does anyone have a better, simpler, more definite procedure? I heard a gunsmith say you should run the lightest spring your gun will take, but When I have to push the sight down for a follow-up shot at distance it feels like a lot of time lost.
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8 hours ago, Gunnar971 said:
I have been watching this forum/thread for weeks now, soaking up all of the info I can. Finally decided to sign up so I can comment and get questions answered!
This is my first year shooting competitively and its been a blast so far! I purchased an X5 2 weeks ago and have had it out twice for IDPA matches. First match was a qualifier. Shooting 115 grain factory loads I was hitting very low, especially on the last stage where you are out 20 yards (I was approximately 8-12" low of center mass). I talked to a few guys after the match and they recommended leaving the sights but picking up some heavier grain ammo. I grabbed some 124 grain factory loads and was able to get to a match this past Sat. Still WAY low. I have some 147 grain stuff on its way which I will try next, but at this point I think sight adjustment is going to be the correct answer to the problem.
My windage adjustment seemed a bit off too. Admittedly I thought it was a sight alignment and trigger press issue. Again, further out it is more pronounced. I was having to aim to the right and off the side of small poppers to hit them at 15 yards. This was using a slow deliberate trigger press, verifying sight alignment, focusing, and going slow after resigning myself to the fact that my times were getting so bad that they didnt matter anymore. Very frustrating. I did not have this issue during the qualifier and the only things I changed sight wise between the two matches was swapping out a green colored fiber optic for a red one. I was very careful not to get the flame to closet to the blade when melting the fiber.
Besides the sights issue, I LOVE this gun. I put in a SS guide rod and 14lb spring from springer precision and then got 4 17 round mags and threw some springer base pads on them so that everything is nice and IDPA legal. Just need to get to the range in a non-competition capacity and get this thing sighted in!
So funny. I had a similar experience in that when i first shot the gun it was way low and left at 15 yards. I thought I had lost all skill. I shot from a sand bag and same thing. I since moved the sights way up and to the right and the gun is VERY accurate.
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4 hours ago, bullseye2012 said:
i just installed the Curved PELT trigger in my gun from GG. i am finding it very hard to hear any kind of tactile reset. is this normal? any one else notice this? did i install wrong? it is hard to hear and almost as hard to feel it in the trigger.
thanks.
How many rounds do you have through the gun? I ask this because I also installed the same trigger and I could not hear or feel any reset. So i put in the stock trigger return spring and I could feel and hear the reset. I contacted Grayguns And they said maybe I need to shoot the gun more. Well now I have 1000 rounds through it and I put their trigger return spring back in and I can feel the reset. It may seem too soft on dry fire but it was fine shooting. I like the trigger now.
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7 hours ago, z40acp said:
Do a WTB here. I bet a lot of shooters have replaced with grams and the originals are new.
Thanks. Maybe I should buy the grams kits. If anyone can recommend it or not please comment.
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Anyone know how/where to get p320 17 rd magazine springs? Sig or Woff don't sell them.
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1 hour ago, f2benny said:
My gun wouldn't run with a 14lb spring on my powder puff 147 load. I had to get a 13lb spring.
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I heard at least twice that the gun may need to be broken in a bit (I hate that idea) before it will work with lighter loads. Not my experience though, I could shoot my reloads with the stock spring.
My FS didn't work with a 14# either. I tried that weight on my X5 only after seeing Alma mention it and I like it. Like I said I bet I could run a 12 with no issue.
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10 hours ago, LHshooter said:
Looking for some recommendations on which lighter recoil spring to use. I am getting ready to order a heavy recoil rod and lighter recoil spring from Springer Precision. A while back, someone posted that Springer recommends a 14 lb spring, but several recent posters have said they are using 13 lb springs. Does the 13 lb make a bigger difference over the 14 lb and has anyone experienced any problems with using the 13 lb? Any feedback would be appreciated. thx
In case it helps I shoot 147 grain bullets at around 132 power factor and Ive been between the 14 and the 13# springs.; I prefer the 14. Just out of curiosity today I shot at least 50 rounds with a 12# spring with no issues.
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1 hour ago, f2benny said:
Anyone find that the guns shoots quite low? I had to really crank the rear sight up. I might replace the front sight... suggestions appreciated.
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Mine shot incredibly low too. To the point that I think SIG just screws in the rear sight and doesn't sight it in. I just adjusted it and its a very accurate gun.
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42 minutes ago, BC27 said:
If you don't mind me asking, how much over travel and reset did you get reduced?
No over travel or reset was reduced. The gunsmith told me he just polished and removed one of the sear springs.
On my X5 I did some polishing, removed one sear spring, and put in the PELT trigger. Still not where I want it. I don't have your skills so I'll probably send my gun to Grayguns at some point.
Thanks for all the info!
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On July 6, 2017 at 6:07 PM, R0CKnU said:
I too am fascinated with your trigger work. But I do question the wisdom of this...
Aren't you concerned that removing one of the springs entirely will introduce lateral torque on the sear? I'm not sure if this would eventually cause uneven wear but, because I'm not sure, I would probably not do this. Grayguns solves this by using two reduced weight springs. This is the preferred method IMHO. But I welcome input from those who know more on the subject. Is my concern overstated?
I wondered about this too but the trigger job on my p320 FS included the removal of one of the springs; 10,000 rounds through the gun with no issues.
Fascinated with this trigger job report too.
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6 hours ago, ELZEROGRANDE said:
I have a P320 safariland holster. And my X5 fits in it fine.
Ive been using my p320 Full size Comp-Tac International holster and its working well. If you check it is a bit short for the gun (1/4 " maybe), but it works. It wouldnt work for carry but its been fine for USPSA. Ill get an X5 holster later but Im in no rush.
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On June 21, 2017 at 6:39 PM, BC27 said:
I got my trigger pull gauge just now. Did a 5 pulls to get an average and ended up with 2 pounds 9 ounces. All 5 pulls were pretty consistent with the lowest one at 2 pounds 5 ounces and the highest at 2 pounds 11 ounces. I consider this a very good sign as the trigger is stable. I think I'd be a bit worried if there were extreme spreads in weight. I did find it impossible to get consistent pulls on the flat trigger by itself so I had to put a rubber band around it to keep the gauge from sliding all over. I placed the rubber band so that the gauge would pull from the middle of the trigger. So I've got about 200 rounds though it now and it feels very consistent. Here's a couple pics.
Looks like I won't get my spare parts to work in the shorter reset and over travel until next week so that will have to wait.
This is amazing. Thanks for sharing.
Do you know how much of the weight is reduced by going from two sear springs to one?
thanks!
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22 hours ago, f2benny said:
Yes they just came out last week
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I tried mine today with a 14# and a 13# spring. My loads are about 132 pf.
In fast shooting the second round was hitting low with the 14#. With the 13# a little bit high. I may be getting too precise and I may have made unconscious adjustments, but Im curious about trying a 14# with some coil cut off. I THINK Yong Lee or Max Michel usd a 14 with one coil cut. This is new to me, does anyone have advice based on experience on how much I should cut a 14# to get it around 13.5? I'm trying to avoid buying a bunch of springs. Thanks!
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22 hours ago, Edge40 said:
Am I the only one that prefers the curved trigger over the flat x5 trigger. I keep going back and forth and prefer the curved.
I prefer the curved also. I believe Yong Lee, a GM, said he prefers the curved too.
P320 X5 Thread
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Funny to read that now. Im using the 11# and it's definitely the right one for me.
Not shooting the X5 for a while since I'm not sure how long the upgrade process will take and I have some matches starting in December. Its too bad I love the gun. Haven't requested the upgrade but plan to.