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  1. Nordic, here. Not sure how it compares with the others but it was lighter IIRC than the DMW and doesn't adversely affect cycling. Style points besides 'cause it matches my Nordic extension :D

    Curtis

    Thanks guys! I think I'm gonna go with the Arredondo.

    Thanks for the offer Jamie, do any of the Rudy Project sponsors sell the Arredondo?

  2. Thanks, that's what I thought. I think the SO in question made a too literal interpretation of the rules.

    Ryan

    He has been told that he will be staked to a cross and burned like a witch at the next match. :goof::devil:

    So his re-education is complete? :D Do I know this person?

    Michael "Iron Mike" Webb

    IDPA Area Coordinator

    Texas, New Mexico and Louisiana

  3. I apologize Mike, my brain was inserting what stealthyblag said as what you had said. <_<

    I agree that it is a pain in the ass stage and skill, but it is a skill that is needed, and so should be tested, every once in a while. I'm not talking every match, but once or twice a year would be a good thing, and since it looks like HPSC will be the only place you see it here in the states, then it would be a good thing to include. Besides the whole premise of the HPSC, is to introduce shooters to what they can expect in IPSC PSG matches.

    Trapr

    So where is the HPSC gonna be next time?

  4. I just got back from Rays Memorial service it was very nice. Ray was a great guy and he will be sorely missed.

    They had some great pics of Ray up at the memorial. Including some of Ray and Jeff Cooper.

    RIP Ray :(

  5. jKelly highlights one of the issues I was addressing extremely well. Based on the information presented here only one shooter was penalized for something that several shooters did. At the point that the decision was made to award a FTDR to one shooter, then all of the shooters in that squad that did the same thing should have received the same penalty. It has been done before, even after the match was over (ala Taran Butler). Or even better yet, after the first shooter did it and the staff suspected round dumping, the entire squad should have been warned before the second shooter came up to shoot.

    I realize it is not easy to be an SO sometimes but the need to be absolutely fair to EVERY shooter is paramount. As it stands one shooter was penalized for something the SO's passively approved by allowing all of the perceding shooters to do without penalty.

    In a course of fire that allows unlimited shots (Vickers) it is next to impossible to determine if someone is intentionally dumping round to gain an advantage. And to award the harshest penalty in the rules seems wrong. At most it should be a procedural.................

    As per the rule book I was giving the shooters the benefit of the doubt until I had no further doubt.

    I was told that they told Robert from headquarters that "they had fun and learned alot....most importantly they learned what they could not get away with" I think the call was right and just and it had its desired effect on the team which will benefit them and the sport in the long run.

    For the record this was my first FTDR for round dumping and I hope it is my last. I would not hesitate to assess the penalty again in the same conditions. Thanks to all who have stepped up with charachter references.

    Have fun be safe and follow the rules. ;):D I hope everyone had fun. Once again thank you to Mike, Cindy and Miss Kitty I had a great time working with y'all.

  6. I have always maintained that penalizing "round dumping" is contradictory with the definition of Vickers Count. Can't have it both ways, as I and others say here and before.

    I agree but it is still a rule.

    But Mike, I think we have a worse problem here. You say:

    "I gave them “the benefit of the doubt” because:

    1. That’s how I S.O.

    2. They are an International Squad

    3. It was their first time at the Nationals

    4. The language barrier."

    Then you penalize the next shooter for following their example because she speaks English?

    She was part of the same team I'm not sure if she spoke english..

    As stated earlier I take full responsibility for letting it go on too long, I apologize. It wasn't until a few of them had already shot that I had all doubt removed.

    This is a bad rule, contradictory and subjective to the point that one of the most experienced SOs in the game dithers over it and ends by screwing most of the entrants.

    Agreed

  7. In reality there IS NO ADVANTAGE to where (other than in the open/not behind cover) a slide lock reload is performed on a stage.

    Snipped to address this one statement.

    You are not realizing that having to reload after engaging a target with one round and then having to re-engage the same target with another round is slower that reloading between targets instead of on the same target. I hope that makes sense. Maybe someone can put this in better words. I'm pretty fried after the Nationals.

  8. I was the CSO for Stages 1 and 2 in bay 1. I assessed the FTDR in question.

    Here is a little bit of my background in IDPA. I helped start the 1st club here in Texas in 96, Quickly followed by becoming a Certified S.O. I started Match Directing in 97 putting on 3 matches every month for the last 10 years. I am an S.O. instructor. I have been the M.D. for a couple of Regional Matches. I have been to the last 10 IDPA National and have S.O.ed at 9 of them and been a CSO at 7 of them. I am also the Area Coordinator for Texas, New Mexico and Louisiana.

    If you have been to the Nationals anytime in the last 9 years I have run you through at least one course of fire and some years 3 COFs. Y'all know what kind of an S.O. and CSO I am. I try to help each shooter when I can. I'm consistent with all my calls and ALWAYS ALWAYS give the shooter the "benefit of the doubt".

    The reason for all that info is just to let people know where I'm coming from and my experience as an S.O. I have the same problem everyone else does with the subjectivity of the "round dumping" rule. As many shooters as I have run through Cofs over the years I have highly suspected "RDing" on numerous occasions. But, because there has always been a doubt in my mind I have never called it. I have always adhered to the whole "shooter gets the benefit of the doubt" thing.

    I never thought in a million years that I would be forced to assess a FTDR for RDing. Then to my complete shock and dismay an international squad at the IDPA Nationals this year removed all "benefit of the doubt" that I thought I'd always have in regards to RDing.

    Every shooter in this squad that was shooting SSP and ESP had the exact same game plan. They were blatantly and consistently Rding in the same place at the same target to get an advantageous reload. I gave them “the benefit of the doubt” because:

    1. That’s how I S.O.

    2. They are an International Squad

    3. It was their first time at the Nationals

    4. The language barrier.

    I bear a lot of the responsibility for letting it go on too long. At one point I had had enough but was unsure as to how to handle it because of all the above reasons. I had the MD come into the bay to see if he had any reservations about me issuing a FTDR. As he and I walked back into the bay one of my assistant S.O.s had taken over running shooters in my absence. (Btw, great job Mike, Cindy and Kitty!!!) The next shooter was a young lady. She predictably did the exact same thing as the others in front of the MD. I looked at him and he looked at me and said that was about the most blatant Rding he had ever seen. He and I had a quick conversation about how to handle it. We decided to give her an FTDR because we both had seen it and were in complete agreement that it was Rding.

    I told him that not only was I going to give her the FTDR. I was also going to put the whole squad on notice. I gathered them all up and told them “we have a problem here” and proceeded to read them the riot act. I told them that what they were doing was against the rules and couldn’t happen anymore at this match or any other IDPA match. It is unfortunate that this happened. It is also unfortunate that this young lady paid the price for the rest of her team. This incident put a real damper on my whole crews day but we did the right thing for the sport.

    I apologize for the long post. I just wanted to set the record straight. Hope everyone had fun and hope to see y'all again next year.

  9. I agree with everyone in this thread.

    Here is a little bit of my background in IDPA. I helped start the 1st club here in Texas in 96, Quickly followed by becoming a Certified S.O. I started Match Directing in 97 putting on 3 matches every month for the last 10 years. I am an S.O. instructor. I have been the M.D. for a couple of Regional Matches. I have been to the last 10 IDPA National and have S.O.ed at 9 of them and been a CSO at 7 of them. I am also the Area Coordinator for Texas, New Mexico and Louisiana.

    If you have been to the Nationals anytime in the last 9 years I have run you through at least one course of fire and some years 3 COFs. Y'all know what kind of an S.O. and CSO I am. I try to help each shooter when I can. I'm consistent with all my calls and ALWAYS ALWAYS give the shooter the "benefit of the doubt".

    The reason for all that info is just to let people know where I'm coming from and my experience as an S.O. I have the same problem everyone else does with the subjectivity of the "round dumping" rule. As many shooters as I have run through Cofs over the years I have highly suspected "RDing" on numerous occasions. But, because there has always been a doubt in my mind I have never called it. I have always adhered to the whole "shooter gets the benefit of the doubt" thing.

    I never thought in a million years that I would be forced to assess a FTDR for RDing. Then to my complete shock and dismay an international squad at the IDPA Nationals this year removed all "benefit of the doubt" that I thought I'd always have in regards to RDing.

    Every shooter in this squad that was shooting SSP and ESP had the exact same game plan. They were blatantly and consistently Rding in the same place at the same target to get an advantageous reload. I gave them “the benefit of the doubt” because:

    1. That’s how I S.O.

    2. They are an International Squad

    3. It was their first time at the Nationals

    4. The language barrier.

    I bear a lot of the responsibility for letting it go on too long. At one point I had had enough but was unsure as to how to handle it because of all the above reasons. I had the MD come into the bay to see if he had any reservations about me issuing a FTDR. As he and I walked back into the bay one of my assistant S.O.s had taken over running shooters in my absence. (Btw, great job Mike, Cindy and Kitty!!!) The next shooter was a young lady. She predictably did the exact same thing as the others in front of the MD. I looked at him and he looked at me and said that was about the most blatant Rding he had ever seen. He and I had a quick conversation about how to handle it. We decided to give her an FTDR because we both had seen it and were in complete agreement that it was Rding.

    I told him that not only was I going to give her the FTDR. I was also going to put the whole squad on notice. I gathered them all up and told them “we have a problem here” and proceeded to read them the riot act. I told them that what they were doing was against the rules and couldn’t happen anymore at this match or any other IDPA match. It is unfortunate that this happened. It is also unfortunate that this young lady paid the price for the rest of her team. This incident put a real damper on my whole crews day but we did the right thing for the sport.

    I apologize for the long post. I just wanted to set the record straight. Hope everyone had fun and hope to see y'all again next year.

  10. I was the Chief Safety Officer for 3 stages on bay 9 at this years Nationals. I arrived at the nightly scheduled CSO meeting on time and everyone was already there and talking so I think I missed some of the talk about Mr. Butler. It seems that each CSO had an issue with Mr. Butler. On my bay I had to stop him from checking the angles (individual course walk through). At the time, I figured since this was only his second Nationals and that he is mainly an IPSC shooter that he might not know better and I didn't feel like it warranted any other action on my part besides stopping him.

    It is a shame that Mr. Butler had to be DQed after the fact when all the information surfaced. I know that John May would have liked to have talked to Mr. Butler face to face but that opportunity was lost when he left.

    Alot of people have been really pushing the envelope the last few years in IDPA. I think the new rule book was the first step in setting the sport back on its intended path. The next step is to start enforcing these new rules more stringently. To quote John May "It's is time to take our sport back". We all need to follow the rules and not see how far we can push that envelope. Just shoot by the rules and the best shooter on any given day will be the winner.

  11. I just returned from the nationals. The stages were great. the shooters were a treat to watch and run. The weather we shot in wed. was BRUTAL (HOT)

    now i need to find pics of it :)  And i got to work with COF all week :P  :P

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    Frederick Haring    (revolver rehab)<<<<<<<<<<<<< :blink:

    Hey Fred, you should change your name to moonwalker instead of firewalker. :P It was great working with you and the rest of the guys. Y'all did a great job!

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