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12 minutes ago, 57K said:
Seems like you've already found out! At 130 PF which is a good one if you can get standard deviation to 5 with your loads. This may be a tad more difficult if you go to a slower powder. TiteGroup is not a powder I use or recommend, but something in the N320 to W231 range should work fine. To save some money, there are 2 very good Vectan alternatives with Prima V and Ba 9 1/2 which was supposed to be Vectan's version of N320. They are owned by the same parent co. and share identical data. In actual handloading guys are finding that Prima V may actually be closer to N320 and that's not a bad thing with Ba 9 1/2 being a tad slower burning and maybe actually closer to N330.
superdude, glad you linked to the ST article that wasn't full of holes, but this one seems much more relevant to loading Major PF. I notice it was written by the same author, Brad Miller, and I guess the Ph.D. suffix might carry some weight depending on if the Ph.D. was earned for physics or sociology.
That load made 130pf in a non-ported gun, I have yet to chrono anything to see how much the ports are robbing the velocity. The goal with the slower powder and possibly lighter bullets is to minimize the dot movement even further by working the ports more, while also maintaining somewhere around the 130pf range. TiteGroup is my easy go to, but I have easy access to HP38 and Autocomp. I have not seen those other powders you mentioned locally, I have seen some VV and Ramshot powders.
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Finally got the Viper 6 MOA on and zeroed on my Performance Center M&P 4.25".
I tried some 115gr with TiteGroup (130pf in Walther P99), Blazer 115gr brass, Winchester 124gr "NATO", and some 147gr with TiteGroup (128pf in Walther P99). With the factory springs it seemed like there is the least amount of recoil and dot movement with the 115gr projectiles.
Should I try lighter projectiles? Slower powder? I was thinking of trying HP38 and Autocomp, But I have a good stock of TiteGroup. I would say the Blazer and TiteGroup 115's felt about the same. -
Really digging the Vortex Viper 6 MOA on mine. Great cowitness and price. I think it was #5 plate and "C" type screws.
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Finally got the Viper 6 MOA on and zeroed on my Performance Center M&P 4.25".
I tried some 115gr with TiteGroup (130pf in Walther P99), Blazer 115gr brass, Winchester 124gr "NATO", and some 147gr with TiteGroup (128pf in Walther P99). With the factory springs it seemed like there is the least amount of recoil and dot movement with the 115gr projectiles.
Should I try lighter projectiles? Slower powder? I was thinking of trying HP38 and Autocomp, But I have a good stock of TiteGroup. I would say the Blazer and TiteGroup 115's felt about the same. -
Following... Just made the switch using a lot of my gramps SS gear from the early days of USPSA, Wilson pads and brass pads on bunch of Wilson 8 round mags. and a handful of 10 rounders for Lim-10. Older 5" .45 Springfield loaded with an A&S MSH/magwell combo and other goodies sprinkled throughout.
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1 hour ago, teros135 said:
Please feel free to not shoot open. Sounds like you'd be very unhappy.
I believe you misunderstood. I'm excited to go open, but am still in the research stage and understand the cost of experimenting and finding what one likes. Experimenting is half the fun!
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By the amount of questions, products, and threads out there, "buy once, cries once", does't apply. More like, "buy many times, cry everytime".
(haven't switched.... yet)
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That is one sweet blaster!
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Garmil, how is the build coming along? My dad just got his old Caspian back after selling to a friend a couple years ago. His was built back in '98 by Wayne Burquist in Naples, FL.
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On 11/26/2016 at 7:08 PM, Garmil said:
Frame is stripped down ready for coating. Slide is off getting popple holes and slide cuts. Got a new set of alumagrips and fit them for the magwell.
Just me or is the magwell... uh... backwards?
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26 minutes ago, Bkreutz said:
Just be aware that shooting major out of a M&P will crack the slide (when depends on how much you shoot, I got a bit over a year before it cracked from the ejection port forward on the left side of the slide, this happened on 2 different slides, I now shoot an STI)
It wouldn't probably be more than 1 season, hopefully it will last that long. I average probably 1-2 mixed matches a month for my area. I would only have the major loads through the gun for USPSA matches.
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I would have to sacrifice too many other guns to get a Czechmate. A lot to invest before I even know I want to stick with open division.
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Just now, JMike said:
zzt is giving good advice. If you go with a ported barrel, you will be shooting Open minor.
There are smaller grips available for the 2011 design guns.
I have tried several of the smaller steel grips, even with a trimmed backstrap and grip safety. I just can't find a comfortable grip position that doesn't hit the bones in my hand. I have yet to find someone with a low ride safety to see if that gives some relief, I use a "ride the safety" grip like on my CZ and 1911 style guns.
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3 minutes ago, zzt said:
You may have trouble making Major with ports only. A friend tried that with a 9mm Glock, using factory Glock ported barrels. It didn't work.
One of the guys I occasionally shoot with, a USPSA Open M, shoots an M&P 5" that he customized. He recommends starting with a CORE now, but that wasn't available when he did his. He has a lightened slide, a heavy magwell, a tungsten guide rod and a barrel with a custom comp on it. No barrel ports. He uses 124gr bullets and AutoComp and HS-6 powder. He makes Major and his gun shoots dead flat.
Having someone build a custom M&P for you will run slightly over $2000. Dave O. told me there was no need to have one custom built. He said to start with a Pro or a CORE, have him do a trigger job on it (superb, BTW) and just buy the parts I wanted and install them. Everything is a drop-in fit.
Of the pistols you listed, I'd go with the M&P or the Glock. You can buy anything you need aftermarket, and have multiple choices. I prefer the M&P because I like the grip better and you can get a better trigger than you can with a Glock.
I agree with the M&P ergos. I have seen several people With CORE models running the Carver comp with good results. I like the idea of the porting just for ease of holster selection and working well with minor loads too. I'm used t 172PF in my Tangfo Limited .40.
What about getting a second barrel for the ported model to use with a comp? Pre-lightened slide and I would have to get another barrel for the comp anyway. -
I'm wanting to break into the open gun fun. Matches I shoot and want it for: 3-Gun, outlaw steel matches, and USPSA so ability to make major is a MUST.
I have been mostly looking at pistols with optics that mount to the slide and are ported or can easily be ported. I'm not looking to win the division, I just want to have fun with optics and not reload as often as carry optics.Guns I think might work, in descending order:
- S&W M&P 9L ported with C.O.R.E. mounting system
- CZ Custom P-09 with optics cut and Mag-Na-Port
- Glock 34 (eww, but lots of availability)
- Walther Q5 Match
- Other suggestions?
Total budget ~$1500
I have smaller hands and don't want a 2011 style pistol.
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I have had a gun beat me to the first shooting position before. I cried a little (a lot) upon seeing my shiny matte nickle CZ SAO slide across the gravel. I still to this day hate seated starts!
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Hi everyone. I have been shooting mixed IDPA, 3 Gun, and USPSA over the past few years. I'm a 3rd gen shooter. Stayed off the forums to find my own way and find what I like and don't like (guns, equipment, gun games/divisions, and competitor types).
Limited to open. Costa comp carry
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Posted · Edited by KampKustoms
I just got my M&P9 Performance Center ported 4.25" all put together and ran it in a 3 gun match. Pretty easy adding a low mount dot to the mix, I usually reload, but was short so I ran Blazer brass 115gr. Shot really flat surprisingly. It wasn't too bad adjusting to the dot (Vortex Viper 6MOA) since I treated it like an irons gun on the presentation. The high suppressor sights made a big difference in finding the dot (I'm also a tad younger and my eyes are still kinda working).
Planning on dipping the toes in Open minor in USPSA shortly.