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It is covered under US Patent 9,664,488
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18 hours ago, rmantoo said:
https://www.ammobot.us/products/ammobot-case-extraction-unit
I'm NOT an electonics guy... I am, however, semi-mechanically inclined (I still have all my fingers and toes, despite my best efforts over the years)...
So...does anyone know if this can easily be made to work with the Mark 7?
This would be amazing for processing .45acp large primer vs small primer...
Thanks in advance
The Case Extraction system is a patent pending product produced by AmmoBot LLC for use only with AmmoBot Rev2 (or newer when the time comes) auto drive systems. You are correct, however, as it works amazingly well for separating small primer 45 ACP and 45 GAP cases from large primer cases while processing without the need to manually remove the cases. It is very consistent as well. You can just put a small 6" bucket next to the machine and it will just toss the rejected cases right into it.
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11 minutes ago, DWFAN said:
It gets really hot, and I have a habbit of not touching things to see how hot they really are. I can usually touch the fins, Ive not tried the motor itself.
I can come up with a temp laser and check on my next long run?Let us know what it comes to. You can contact me directly regarding order information and possible replacement if necessary.
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2 hours ago, DWFAN said:
I've used a fan since day 1.Does it get too hot to touch? You may have a motor problem.
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On 1/18/2017 at 8:09 AM, GregJ said:
Definitely!!
I just got a note back from Jason/Ammobot, and since I was running it manually with the power off, he felt the motor was generating enough EMP that it was partially engaging itself. This sounds logical, and is probably true, I will verify tonight.
It's due to the motor inductance building up enough of a charge to back feed power into the drive. When there is enough power the drive "enables" causing the motor to try to hold whatever position it is in.
@MeatPuppet is right. It's all sciency. ?
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On 1/18/2017 at 8:17 AM, DWFAN said:
Mine is smooth when cool/power on, but after the machine runs for 2-3000 cycles is when it's rough/hard to run manually.
It is suggested to put a small fan your bench that will move air across the cooling fins on the motor. Heat builds up faster than can be dissipated during long sessions. Lots of power going through that motor. It gets "rough" because the motor body expands under high heat and makes the internal tolerances tighter.
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Here is the link to another forum thread where an owner speaks of his experience with his AmmoBot.
http://www.brianenos.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=193588&page=4#entry2494961
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so there is no ammo bot owners yet? It seems like the best compromise between the p/w and mark 7.
I like that it senses the end positions rather than relies on a mechanical stop to be adjusted correctly.
The clutch also seems better than a p/w.
I'm an AmmoBot owner.
We now have a vendor forum. I am also willing to answer any questions you have.
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Please visit and welcome our new Forum Dealer in the Vendor's Tents: Jason Pruett (LostWorm) of AmmoBot.
Thanks!
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This is one I did over a year ago that detects and culls them.
How fast can that thing go?
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that is awesome!! on website the ejector isnt there though, only sensor?
It's not for sale yet.
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There are other players in the game now. You should take another look and see what's out there. In my humble opinion, PW isn't even an option. I've used one myself and spent more time fixing a broken press than actually loading ammo.
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This is about as fast as I have run a 1050 reliably and that is just for processing.
That's not the same machine you had in your previous video. Part of the problem with a rotary drive is that it requires modification to the 1050. The AmmoBot is a bolt on.
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What happens if you run out of powder on an ammobot? I know the 1050 has an alarm but guessing it keeps going?
It does keep going. The machine stops automatically when it runs out of primers, so that is an excellent opportunity to fill the powder hopper when necessary. None of the companies that build automation for the 1050 recommend running their machine unsupervised, including us. So, there shouldn't be a problem with running out of powder.
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PLCs are usually priced out of the range of something someone is going to want to pay for a machine. Although that may work great for you, it's probably not feasible for building and sending to hundreds or thousands of people wanting to have bolt-on automation for their 1050.
We will be adding functionality later on that will accomplish the same thing without having to use limit switches or measuring motor load.
How fast can you run that setup, if you don't mind my asking?
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Thanks for link showing the Jam. Does it automatically drop the ram on a jam or does it stop?
Can you reverse it slowly to clear a jam and carry on or would you need to pull all the cases and put everything back 1 space?
It stops with the arm in the up position. You'd then need to index all the cases back one position and check everything. However, it would be best to be watching when it happened and hit the handheld kill switch to stop it when the jam occurs.
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How does the ammo bot deal with jams?
We use a stepper motor, which works using magnetic fields. If a jam occurs, the magnetic fields are overcome and the motor slips internally. The machine then detects a short stroke when the arm returns to the home position. We have a video that shows what happens.
This functionality was there from the beginning, so the video is of a previous version of the machine. The current production version still contains this functionality. Here's the link to the video:
More videos on this machine can be found on our Media page:
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Do you have something planned that wont raise the press so high? I only have 5 inches above the casefeeder as is.
We are working on a new drive that reduces the noise output from the motor. It is also much smoother. The new drive is going out on current production machines ordered from this point forward. Please contact me if you have any more questions about the AmmoBot.That Mark7 looks pretty nice.. But that price!! Will they sell it without the pretty computer screen? LoL
I've been looking at the ammobot since it also doesn't really modify the press and it appears I will still be able to load all rifle cases since the stroke isn't shortened like it seems with the forcht setup. So far my biggest con with the ammobot is the noise. The handle moving around could be dealt with by either cutting it down or somehow modifing it if I needed to. But I also like the ability to use the press without the motor on.
Biggest problem now is I need to gain 6" of space by either cutting the legs off my bench or making a shorter bench just for the press since I am limited with overhead space.. Already cut down the press a few inches to fit the bulletfeeder.
Anyone else have any experience with the ammobot? Or see possible problems with that setup? Noise was another thing I noticed about it.
We don't have an option to go shorter with the current configuration. We need every bit of the space we have for machine adjustments.
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That Mark7 looks pretty nice.. But that price!! Will they sell it without the pretty computer screen? LoL
I've been looking at the ammobot since it also doesn't really modify the press and it appears I will still be able to load all rifle cases since the stroke isn't shortened like it seems with the forcht setup. So far my biggest con with the ammobot is the noise. The handle moving around could be dealt with by either cutting it down or somehow modifing it if I needed to. But I also like the ability to use the press without the motor on.
Biggest problem now is I need to gain 6" of space by either cutting the legs off my bench or making a shorter bench just for the press since I am limited with overhead space.. Already cut down the press a few inches to fit the bulletfeeder.
Anyone else have any experience with the ammobot? Ammobot MK1 Or see possible problems with that setup? Noise was another thing I noticed about it.
I'd be more than happy to discuss any concerns you have with our setup, or put you in touch with existing customers.
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Found a new autodrive on youtube, AmmoBot. Stand clear of the handle!
The handle doesn't move that fast. I let it hit me on several occasions on purpose. All it does is push you out of the way. As far as chains stretching and the like, that's why we built in adjustments for it. I will say, however, that after a year of running one myself the chain stretch was nearly unnoticeable. Timing belts and the pulleys that make them work are unnecessarily expensive. Look at the difference in price between the Mark7 and the AmmoBot MK1. The $1400 added price difference for the Mark 7 isn't all in the touchscreen. In regards to another post on here, a pace of 1600 rounds per hour isn't slow by any measure I've ever heard of.
I'm not dogging the Mark 7, or even the Forcht system. We just opted for a simpler approach.
Will ammobot case extraction unit work w/Mark 7?
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You should check that priority date again.