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28 minutes ago, jtrump said:
I've never been a fan of plated bullets but I had them and wanted to test out my new glock barrel, my stock one wasn't cutting the mustard.
147g Xtreme plated .356 - 3.2g Titegroup, 1.150 OAL, Fed Primers, made 133PF, 130PF with 3.1g
This was from 20 yards off my bag, the 2 out left were me standing offhand, This was after the chono session on an old target, don't let those extra pasties fool you.
jtrump - that is a nice group at 20yds. What sights do you use for this? Thx
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Awesome and thank you all for info. I am reading and pricing various projectiles to see which ones I want to get start with.
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7 hours ago, blackhand said:
Using several different coated lead bullets, WSF has been the most accurate for me in 9mm Glocks--everything from a G43 to a G17 with RMR optic. I don't own a G17L or G34, though. WSF has been more accurate for me than N320, Bullseye, and Ramshot Competition. Off-hand groups of 4" at 25 yards with a stock G26, G19, and G17 are normal. With match barrel, optic, and shooting from a rest, smaller groups are easily achieved.
My range load for 9mm Glocks is 3.6 gr WSF with an Acme 122 gr coated Flat Point bullet at 1.045 OAL. I've also loaded several thousand rounds of 3.6 gr WSF with a Bayou 124 gr Flat Point bullet at 1.075 OAL. Bayou has replaced that with a 120 gr Flat Point bullet. The loading for that bullet should be similar to the Acme 122 gr bullet.
3.2 gr WSF with an SNS Casting 147 gr coated Flat Point bullet at 1.125 OAL has also worked well for me.
These are light, targets load that cycle all those guns reliably. I've used as much as 5.2 gr WSF with a 122/124 gr coated bullet to shoot through a compensated Glock 17. You should be able to increase the powder charge until you reach your desired power factor without any issues.
I expect greater accuracy from jacketed bullets, but with the performance I get from coated projectiles, I haven't had to make the jump.
Backhand - Thank you for the info, WSF burn-rate is close to N340 which is a favorite of mine. (http://www.wwpowder.com/PDF/Burn Rates - 2015-2016.pdf)
Also, I see that it is a ball powder which meters well in my reloader. (Much more than a disk or flake.) Good to know.
I have not looked at Acme Flat Points but will need to add those to the list. Also, I am not sure what my Glock's max OAL will be. I need to reload a few dummy rounds and get my micrometer out to see where the lead on bullet hits the lands and will not feed.
I would take a 4" group at 25 any day, and the Berry copper coated are not producing that for me. Off of a bench rest, I get occasional flyers that I know are the gun or me for sure.
This is great info. Thank you.
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On 8/25/2017 at 5:05 PM, rooster said:
Your going to get a lot of response on this one. I run either a 124 precision delta or Montana gold Japan at 1.135 for the Pd, and 1.125 for the mg. With 4.0 gr. N320, 4.0 titegroup, and my favorite 4.7 gr wsf. Never cared too much for plated or coated bullets. Too much screwing arround with them and the savings are not that much to justify the hassle.
These are great recommendations and thank you each for the responses and details. I have been looking at each as they come in and going out to look at specs and pricing. I've only been reloading pistol for a couple of years and most all of the projectiles mentioned are new to me.
I will reload a few starting load, once I receive the bullets and start testing. This is great info and Thank you.
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Great and Thx. I've been using Berry's copper plate for several years. Locally, there is not a lot of selection, so 124 precision delta or Montana gold Japan will be ones that I check out.
I suspected sometime ago that the copper plating process may not produce as uniform a projectile as the jacketing process, but I am no expert. I will check these out.
Vihtavuori N320 is one of my favorite powders.
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Would anyone share their most accurate projectile and load for a Glock 34 Gen 4, please.
I just purchased one and am reloading Titlegroup and Berry's Copper Plated RN 147 gr. for my other 9mm.
I am looking for projectiles and loads that perform well at the longer distances of 25 yards in the G34.
The gun is new and I am putting Dawson Precision Adjustable sights on it . Then, I plan to reload 2 or 3 diff loads and projectiles and shoot it from the bench to get an understanding of groups better and is is more consistant.
Please advise OAL you found best.
Thank you,
Frodo9
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Ok, thank you. I am new to IDPA and unclassified. I recently shot our club's monthly IDPA Basic/Dixie Wheelgun Match. This was part of Stage 1: T1 - T4, 3 rounds each. 12 rounds unlimited.
They allow only 6 rounds in each clip for IDPA Basic/Dixie Wheelgun. I carried 3 clips total.
I took 3 shots and T1, then 3 at T2, reloaded and did the same at T3, T4. I hit the A zone twice and 1 in the black for each T1-T4. 5 down on each. I think I heard mockery from my squad-mates. Lol.
But since it was unlimited, it sounds like after going through T1-T4 the 1st time, I could have reloaded with the 3rd clip and gone back through.
Is this correct?
Thanks again.
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For each shot that does not hit the A Zone, and hits the black hardcover, how is it scored for a target like this?
Thank you,
Frodo9
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Follow-Up - This is great advise.
I kept the XDM-C 9mm and shot the local IDPA Basic/Dixie Wheel Gun monthly match in March thru May last year. Then was out busy with work and family for the remainder of the year. Then, I started shooting the match again last month.
I have been practicing and dry firing using Ben Stoeger's book and my match results are starting to improve. My accuracy and speed are decent for now and I have been working on my knowledge of IDPA rules. Procedural costed my quite a bit in the last match.
The XDM - C 9mm shoots fine for me out to 20 yds and the gun is fun. I put a drop in PRP trigger kit and it went from a 6 to 3.5 LB pull. My accuracy improved b/c of it.
Thanks again for the great advise.
PS - I plan to shoot the classifier later this year. it fills up fast, so I am not sure when I will be able to classify. Here is my XDM-C 9mm with the new trigger....
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M911 - Good point and thank you for the feedback. I plan to rent a 5" at the range and send some lead down range to see how I like it. Right now, I am using my XDM 9 C and really enjoying shooting the matches. I will rent a glock 34 and a M&P Pro 5 and compare, Thx!
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Thank you all for the advice, I took the XDM/C 9mm and entered a Dixie Wheel Gunner / BASIC IDPA match at our local club and had a blast.
Glad I did not go and just watch, lol. That would have been torcher. The stage distances where short and the learning curve and overall experience made it a lot of fun.
Virtually all of my points down were NOT due not to the accuracy of the gun. It is truly the Indian as you said and not arrow. Humbling but fun, indeed.
I am training each day using Ben Stoegers Dry Fire Training Book and Live Fire training once a week.
I plan train and shoot the XDM/C 9mm for 6 months or so and go from there. I currently hold an 6 inch group consistently at 15 yds with the XDM-C.
Can't wait for the next IDPA Basics match! Thanks again.
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Sounds great and thank you all for the input. I will rent 4.25 and shot is side buy side with my XDM-C and go from there. I used to shoot skeet with a local club in college and just got into pistol about a year ago. I shot all 3 gauges and was A class in 12. I want to be disciplined as a I learn to shot idpa and do more than just go at it. Thx Again. Frodo9
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Sounds good and Thx for the info.
Since I have a Springfield XDM-C 3.8, I would like to find a M&P 9 with the 5" barrel to try it out.
Thx again, Frodo9.
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Thank you for the IDPA info. I have not shot my 1st match yet and have a Springfield XDM-C 3.8 that I have pondered using. So, I am feeling my though things.
I like the M&P a lot. I may l go watch the next IPDA match and also practice at some of the same distances that the stage is set up at..
I will also rent a 5 M&P at the range if they have one and see how it feels. Someone in the club mentioned I should "buy as much accuracy as I could afford" and then let talent do the rest.
If you don't mind me asking, what is your preferred pistol for IDPA? Thx again, Frodo9.
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Folks:I am just getting into IDPA and am comparing 3 different M&P Pro Series models to purchase one as a starter pistol for local IDPA Competition.I have questions.The three models are:1. Model M&P9 Pro Series - 4.25 Barrel, 17+1 Rounds, SKU 1780352. Model M&P9 Pro Series - 5 Barrel, 17+1 Rounds, SKU 1780102. M&P9 PERFORMANCE CENTER PORTED - 5" Barrel, 17+1 Rounds, SKU 10098My questions are:1. For IDPA, does the 5 inch barrel offer an advantage over the 4.25?2. How does the recoil and muzzle flip on the M&P9 Pro Series compare to other production pistols like the Glock? I have read the ore axis is close in comparison.Which would you recommend and what has been your experience?Thank you,Frodo9
Favorite 9mm Projectile and Load for G34 Gen 4?
in 9mm/38 Caliber
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Tight Groups for Sure. I have heard that the s3f barrels are nice. Is yours stainless? Is it ported? Thx