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Hello,
I would highly appreciate if you would share opinions for using a .22 lr revolver as training for PPC.
I'm training alone, able to reach a shooting range once a week and shoot about 60 fires/ practice. Allready having a dry fire routine ( 3 - 4 times/week) I'm thinking more "trigger time" will be useful.
I have a SW 686 used both in 25 m CFP and PPC Distinguished Revolver and found a SW 617 ( .22lr) for sell.
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Practice before the match Service revolver ( a 6" one
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Not as good in contest :
But still take first place!
Thank you again for helping me !
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dry fire, dry fire, dry fire.
And practice more at the 50ym line. Once you step back to the 25y line the target looks enormous.
Indeed !
And ... what a difference between Colt Python stock trigger and SW with a Wolf spring kit !
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And also first Distinguished Revolver Match
with my new "friend" SW 686-3
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Finally my first practice at 50 m free with both strong and weak hand. Unfortunately I must shot POA - POI ( center mass) at least with Geco 38 SPL WC.
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My decision is made, I'll hang with revolver.
Also I noticed some similarities I begin with Pythons , looking to change with a 686.
Hope to score my 599
Is 6"-er a must have, or it works on 4" too?
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We aren't allowed to reload, barely finding .38 spl (most usual Sellier& Bellot fmj or Geco wad cutters). Revolver isn't very popular here, still now.I'll take you up on that and hook you up with a real bill Davis ppc gun. I shot it when my partner and I shot a team match and took the world two man team record. We shot a 599 and 598 out of 600. I'm sure someone has done better by now.
Do you reload? If so what is your load?
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I don't know if we'll met this life, but if it's gonna happen I'll give you all the beer you can drink.
Thank you for valuable advices.
Best regards!
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You could be sure I'll do that and thanks a lot!
But 5 days a week on shooting range is quite impossible for me unfortunately, so I try 50 rounds on 50 yards and 20 rounds on 25 yards lane once a week
PS. What is "Kentucky" ?
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Don't mention Glock please!
I was so happy when I sold my G34 gen 4. CZ is affordable here and there are some parts available, but revolvers for me looks different.
A few days ago I was practicing for the first time a 48 shots match with Windicator it is room for improvement but I like his trigger better than Python's.
Next week I will start to practice from 50 y and 25 y lane.
Also I ordered from Brownell's some Jetloaders, spring kits and a Hogue grip to upgrade that SW 686 which I'm gonna change with my Python.
I'll try to put some pictures here.
PS. Any suggestions you have will be appreciated.
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I'm thinking about it. Do you think SW MP9 or Beretta 92 are decent semi?
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You are truly right!
A few days ago I have done a kind of test. I shooted fire by fire , drawing from holster from 15 and 25 meters. Every single shot was a 10's.
But , when I begin to shoot series of six ...
Today was the contest day, my worst score ever.
I organized till now 3 PPC competitions in 48 shoots matches my score is going down constantly 473 , 457 and today 431 .
Next week I want to practice from 50 and 25 meters shooting series of six , observing etc.
I just don't know what is wrong but I wont' give up!
Also I want to change my Colt Python with a Smith Wesson 686 ( 6 " barrel) and upgrade it with a spring kit and maybe a new grip ( Hogue ? ).
PS I talked with Ralf Merkle last year at Backnang. In fact I was talking with his son and he started to laught when I was asking for some speedloadres for my Weihrauch ( Windicator) revolver. After all I understand now why he was laughing
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I practice with dry fire on a daily bases and feel it help, but I have to find my rhythm and recoil control during live fire.
Shooting only one string may be the ticket I guess.
Tomorow is range day and I'll shoot the entire match for a verification for the Saturday match, but next week I'll try to make a test : shooting from 25 m one single shot till I'll be able to shoot only 10's.
After this achievement I'll try shooting strings of six.
What do you think?
PS. Do I mentioned I'm shooting with 3" barrel?
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I was thinking at finding a patridge front sight and a wider notch rear sight .
But , for now , I'm focusing more on the indian than the arrow.
In another word I try to compensate whatever need of better equipment arise trough proper technical and mental preparation
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... With a Python you will need to hold left of center mass for the left barricade. ..
I'm afraid to do this because from six shot with the left hand 50% will go in right part of nine but the others will land in 10's
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This is what big boys are running, but I have to grow up : ( Merkle tuning)
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I think it 'll be more expensive to upgrade my Colt than buying a specialised tool from a German top tuners .
Most of them are using SW platform in L frame or 1911 for bottom feeder .
Right now I don't want to spend a lot of money for such a highly specialised revolver as I don't know for sure how much PPC shooting will be there. Indeed, every months it's a PPC contest in Europe but I can't afford more than 1 maybe 2 trip in another country for shooting per year.
So , for moment I should stick with what I allready have but I keep my mind open even for a semi auto.
As I already told you I'm limited at one live training per week with just 50 rounds because my budget for shooting it so tight.
This is the main reason why I'm looking at 48 shot matches ( http://www.wa1500.org/course%20of%20fire.htm#special%20course%20of%20fire,%2048%20rounds ) for ammo shortage both for practice and competition.
It's looks like I should continue with my daily dry fire practice focusing on advice you give it to me but I'm not sure if , in live practice, should I run the whole match or make series of shots from 15 and 25 meters ?
Next week I will take part at our monthly PPC game and I hope to broke 470 barrier.
mojo1By serial number my Python is made in 1968, I payed 600 Eur for it two years ago, it was nearly mint state .
Here is a picture, please don't look at that horrific holster
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It is hard to have someone watching because there are really very few PPC shooter here, in fact I'm in charge with PPC spreading over the cou ntry ( Romania, Europe )
. Also in Europe PPC is alive and well ( still) mostly in Germany, Austria and Sweden. There are also European Police and Fire Games where there is some PPC shooting . Usual we shoot ISSF matches but my shooting club is also IDPA affiliated .As you see I'll have to struggle my way up to highmaster by myself !
Last live training I've done like you said, I split whole matches in series of 6 shots observing the target. At 3 meters/8 sec it's a large hole in X, 7 meters - all in X, 15 meters there are some flyers ( about 2, 3 in 9's), at 25 there are more flyers ( usual from shooting with my left hand/left eye - shots are going in the right side of the target).
I don't know if I 'll be able to aim at neck, I use a center mass hold.
I have a Colt Python 6" stock except the grip and a Weihrauch Hunter 3" ( you call it Windicator I think ) . Python hasn't got the perfect double acton trigger and the Weihrauch grip looks a bit to little fro my hands.
Now I'm looking at a Smith Wesson 19 , 2'5" hoping that is easier to upragde ( grips , spring kit , etc ).
Indeed I digging here for more gold like that so if you have further ideas don't hesitate to spread them.
Thanks a lot and good luck!
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Hello every one,
I'm reading this forum from a long time and I see there it's a lot of experienced shooters with PPC background.
About six months ago I started a routine which consists in daily dry fire ( I simulate for a few time 48 shots matches, paying atention to firm grip, breathing, front sight) and , at most , once on a week, I run a full 48 shots match.
Any suggestions for training regime it will be highly appreciate since I see a limitation in 465 - 470 score from 480.
Best regards.
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Posted · Edited by cptgabriel
I think I have to buy a .22 revolver for cost savings. Obviously I'm oriented to shoot group for PPC and most of my training is done at 50 yards line.
Also I'm thinking that adding .22 lr practice at my dry fire will benefit because I'll have a better response about trigger control and front sight acquisition than in dry fire.
But I wasn't so sure that the knowledge gain with .22 will transfer to .38 spl in contest.
Where I live .22 ammo box price it's a quarter than .38 spl, even cheaper.
Best regards.