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On 9/18/2019 at 11:30 AM, Sparky said:
Being a retired Cop, my biggest problem with Cops carrying a Cocked & Locked pistol is safety. When I first started
my career we all shot Revolvers, then as time went by we progressed to semi-autos. However, very few Police Dept's
allow their Officers to carry single action pistols. Patrol Officers are better off with a Striker Fired pistol because of
safety. It's really easy to set off a single action pistol by accident. Yes, they are great guns and I shoot Single Stack
in USPSA and love it, but for Cops in general, not a big fan........
Cops, from lowly patrol to SWAT have been carrying cocked and locked 1911's for years and years. There are no safety issues with someone who has the proper training and trigger time on one. In fact it's probably more inherently safe due to the external safety. Its just as easy if not easier to set off a striker fired pistol by accident.
There are a lot of agencies that authorize /issue 1911's for duty use. While it may not have been prevalent in your area, it is in some. From West Coast to East coast. I carried a 1911 as a patrol officer for several years. Went to Glocks due to wanting to carry what my other officers carry magazine /ammo wise. My current department authorizes 1911's, in fact my Chief carries one. I just qualified with my STI and got it approved for duty use.
The "issues" with a 1911/2011 as a duty gun are mainly officer commitment, logistics and cost from my point of view. Yes it is a little more work to master. But that is a individual officer issue. A Officer dedicated to their craft and carrying one will take the time to master their weapons, whether it be a Glock , Sig , Beretta or 1911/2011. When I attended my State Firearms Instructor Class, one of the instructors stood behind me on the line for the first hour of drills, until he saw I was extremely competent with my 1911 and went somewhere else on the line. Not all officers are dedicated to dry firing, training, etc to maintain their essential skills. Those guys wont be interested in carrying a 1911/2011.
An Agency has to maintained certified armorers for the 1911/2011 system, which really isn't that hard or different from maintaining Glock certified armorers. Cost is what I consider the biggest factor. Chiefs used to seeing $300 glocks blanche upon seeing the price tag for a good duty grade 1911/2011. Finding a out of the box duty grade 1911 that's not a full custom house build right now is the bigger issue. For a time the big complaint was changing the recoil spring every 5000 rounds. Sprinco springs are going like 30,000 cycles between changes. Also, depending on the locale/region, it could be 2 years before the agency or Officer gets their pistol back after a OIS.
Safariland has been producing duty grade holsters, level 1-3 for several years for 1911/2011 pistols. -
For those needing a duty holster for STI HOST/DUO w/ X300U.
It is being reported that the Safariland 6360RDS-8192-131 for the S&W Core 9L w/X300U will work for the STI P DUO/HOST.
Buck posted on IG and the Officer that has it confirmed fit.
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Sorry, should have been specific. The 7T series has collapsed during combative classes when the empty holster was rolled on. Collapsed the holster which prevented reholstering. Its happened in a couple of different classes.
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I carried a personal 1911 for years on patrol and currently own my 2nd STI. My Chief just bought a S/A 9mm 1911 to carry on duty. While I can and will get my STI approved for duty, I doubt I will carry it. Its been fine reliability and accuracy wise but I only have about 1000 rounds on this one. First thing I do with new pistol is 500 rounds, usually 400 practice and 100 duty . At my previous agency , I was responsible for all maintenance, repair and up keeping on my 1911 which wasn't a huge problem since I had been to the 1911 Armorers course. My current issue duty gun is a G19 with RMR, comp and X300U. Seeing department issued/approved 1911/2011s in my geographic area is very rare, like unicorn rare. Most agencies can't or don't want to deal with the associated costs and issues of maintaining a 1911/2011 vs. Glock. Especially if they are having problems with the 1911/2011s that they purchased. Holster issues not with standing. I saw where Buck stated that USMS SOG as well as some other agencies are getting STI pistols. But from what I saw these were specialty units from larger agencies that can support the platform. I'm not against it. I'd love to try a P with a RMR on it.
Holster wise, be aware that Safariland T series, like Ranger Trace's, have been reported to collapse during training if they get rolled on. -
I carried a TRP in .45 on duty and off as LE for several years. It did the job and I never felt like I was outgunned. I tried a STI Marauder in 9mm couple of years ago . I liked the weight, caliber , ability to use a WML but in the end I went back to a Glock. The juice wasn't worth the squeeze in terms of costs, , magazine availability etc.
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Has anyone done this? I'm thinking of going this route to save money vs. buying a STI etc. This particular Para is set up exactly how I would need it, short dust cover railed frame wise. Just want to get rid on my .45 and get to one caliber across the board. What would be involved ? New barrel, slide, ejector being fitted along with new mags?
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Arredondo makes some for Magpul glock mags.
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Does anyone know of a source for the 13 coil springs that Dawson sells for their Glock Base Pads? Brownells part number would be awesome since that is where I am trying to order from.
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I wouldn't mind the tactical if they made it with a short railed dustcover like the Marauder, in 9mm.
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Is the rear sight on the Marauder user replaceable with a non adjustable? Or would it have to replaced my STI?
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Agency Arms
in Glock
I would be dubious of any gun modifier that lists people who shoot their guns as 'Agents'.
STI Staccato P for Police
in 1911-style Pistols
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@paherne
If you are needing a duty holster solution for a Staccato P DUO, the Safariland 6360RDS, specifically Safariland 6360RDS-8192-481, for the S&W MP CORE with X300U will work . The 481 designator is for right hand basketweave holster.