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22 hours ago, Jake Di Vita said:
I'd be happy to as long as the terms for what your expectations are spelled out specifically in advance. I think it'd be a whole lot easier to just have a grown up conversation about it, but if you want to challenge my ability to shoot, I'm more than happy to oblige.
Well Mr. Di Vita, it’s a practical “game” and it’s better to be shown that spoken. Ron interacts with the top shooters nationwide and the principles we teach corresponds in their systems for performance and training. In relation to that fact we are curious about your superiority and we are wondering why you are not included in the National team. Please contact us on ross@tacticalperformancecenter.com so we will provide you the slot.
Best Regards!
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23 hours ago, Jake Di Vita said:
Great. Thank you for actually starting a decent conversation on the subject.
Well, it's really hard to tell via video how much recoil there actually is. And yes, the camming action on the gun will assist in recovering the gun from recoil to the target. I'm not arguing that it is pretty fast, I'm arguing that it isn't ideal. As I said before, I think Ron is a very good shooter, but I don't think the technique he is espousing is maximizing the ability to run a gun quickly and accurately. It's very common to find a pretty good shooter that isn't using pristine fundamentals. I've been testing and re-testing methods for real close to 20 years now. I've been a gm for almost 15 years. Since making gm, I've had 4 or 5 complete and total overhauls of my technique. I've tried letting the gun recoil and I can't produce times or hits with that method anywhere close to the method I'm using now. To take an example from my personal training, my best bill drill using the let the gun recoil technique is right around 1.5. That is still reasonably fast using what I consider flawed technique. My best bill drill using my current methodology of not letting the gun do whatever it wants is 1.26. Quite a significant difference.
Sure. I've heard this before. I think it has validity for some shooters but it certainly isn't an immutable truth. To me, you shooting low on follow up shots isn't necessarily because you are tense. If we break the problem down to it's most basic fundamental, you are simply crunching the gun down at some point during the execution of the shot. If you are compensating for recoil prematurely, we call that a flinch. There are other ways to correct a flinch beyond relaxing and letting recoil happen. You may be prematurely pushing the gun down by only a hundredth of a second. Timing issues like that are certainly fixable without letting recoil happen.
Recoil from one shot does not directly effect the shot placement of the next shot. All shots fired are independent of each other. The cycling and recovery action of recoil is done long before you actually start pulling the trigger for the next shot. The difference in what he recommends and what I do is that I am always aggressively driving the gun to the target, even during the execution of the shot. I don't want to drive the gun down from recoil, I want to drive the gun forward right back to the target. I think this is a distinct difference that gets lost on people. Conflating recoil compensation with poor execution of the next shot is over simplifying what is going on in that process.
But in the image from him it directly says "let recoil happen". I also think that image is fundamentally incorrect since it says calling the shot happens after recoil. Calling the shot happens at the precise instant that recoil starts. I'm a bit surprised he would publish that image with such a glaring error.
That's irrelevant to the subject at hand. We could spend all day finding popular firearms instructors teaching flawed technique. Some students (as we've seen in this thread) become so entrenched in their favorite instructor's dogma that they never branch outward to expand their abilities. Yes, there are a bunch of people that swear by him. That in no way means what he is teaching is the most efficient way of accurately and quickly manipulating a firearm.
Hello,
I am one of Ron’s instructors and reading the topic I will share my comment:
I do not think Mr. Di Vita clearly understands in depth the concept of the Shooting Cycle as it is presented, the idea behind each element, and their actual meaning. I will not start a long explanatory polemics here. Instead we will be happy to provide to Mr. Di Vita a free slot for some of our classes so he will be able to receive detailed view on the principles that are involved in our system. We will be more than happy to discus and observe Mr. Di Vita’s superior technique but if he do not meet our expectations, for skills, accompanied with accuracy and consistency required to be a word class performer in this “game”(as Ron Avery is a proven name), we will kindly ask Mr. Di Vita to pay the actual cost of the class.
I think this is constructive idea as we are always focus on positive input, the success of our training school and the success of our students!
Best Regards!
Rossen
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A1 is one of the best tactical compensators for AK 47 on the market. Over 70% recoil reduction plus tactical glass braking spikes in front surface.
That’s for AK guys, but really A1 makes AK to run almost as balanced as AR!
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Place: Veliko Tarnovo
Pre match registration and match officials accomodation: 20.7.2012
Pre match 20-23.7.2012
RO party: 23.7.2012
Match registration 23-24.7.2012
Opening ceremony 24.7.2012
Main match 25-28.7.2012
Shoot Off and awards ceremony 29.7.2012
Distance from all 3 big airport aprox 200km and drive time to the range 3 hours.
The ERC2012 will be held on the National Navy University's shooting range in Belyakovets village, district of Veliko Tarnovo, Bulgaria.
The exact location of the range is N 43 07`00``/ E 25 33`37``
20.07.2012: Prematch Registration
21.07.2012: Prematch
22.07.2012: Prematch
23.07.2012: Prematch, Main Match Registration
24.07.2012: Main Match Registration, Opening Ceremony
25.07.2012: Main Match
26.07.2012: Main Match
27.07.2012: Main Match
28.07.2012: Main Match
29.07.2012: Shoot Off, Closing Ceremony
The number of stages and rounds will be specified soon.
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Sorry but it costs me few attempts to post a working link at the end
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Excellent multi angle video! Good job!
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Here we go, that’s mine
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First of all thank you guys for the fast reply! Actually it’s a matter of NPA and combination of the relationship of what you see as combine sight picture. I am focusing am can see clearly what is happening with my sights just from time to time especially in group of targets during the transition maybe I am not stopping them exactly in the middle of the target. I will practice to clear that out. Thanks!
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When you have a difficult shot or a long shot where actually calling the shot is most important, the shooter is using the 4th type of focus (total concentration on the sights, respectfully front sight). So you can’t see the target clearly and you can’t be absolutely sharp that the perfect sight alignment is in the exact middle of the a zone. In this situation should I rely completely to the NPA to call my shot. If the sight alignment is very little to the left or right in this type of focus in my opinion is not possible to catch this because of the total concentration on the sights. Please tell me your opinion about this? Thanks
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Hello Brian!
I have question about the weekly and why not monthly training schedule and the amount of ammunition for a good training cycle. What is the minimum amount of ammunition for a Grand master level of shooting? Thanks and best regards!
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Eric, Myself and Gerard Grauffel and my diploma after completed intensive course with the champ
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Here I'm with part of CZ team
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what pistol is Martin shooting? is that a CZ champion ? BTW cool pics
It's based on Tactical Sport
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It's on Delta Open Cup - Level III Match - Batanica, Belgrade(Serbia)
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Here some pics of myself and some of the greatest shooters in IPSC - Eric Grauffel, Adam Tyc and Martin Kmenicek
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Here is my course of fire on nice stage that we builded last weekend at the range near Sofia, Bulgaria
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Good video. Thanks. Those were some pretty smokey loads. Lead bullets maybe?
EXACTLY!
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Congradulations on 2nd.
Thanks but it was far from my best performance
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He is me and my shooting (production division) through courses of fire in local level 2 match in Beljakovec, Bulgaria. There were lots of stupid mistakes in my runs, it just wasn't my day! Nevertheless I become 2nd in Production - quite funny ah?
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Criticize my run! Thanks'!
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Production Division - Opposable grip from Front Sight
in Handgun Techniques
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Mr. Jake Di Vita,
As I remember, I presented myself at my very first post in this topic. I am one of Ron’s instructors, but to be more informative I can say I have some years of experience working with international law enforcement, military and security agencies, private contracts, and have been instructing together with colleagues from United States, South Africa, Israel, Great Britain, Australia, New Zealand and etc. For that period I’ve concluded that professional ethics have a core meaning.
You haven’t start rational discourse, you did multiple statements and we do not see any point to comment on them. These are your words:
“I've never seen Ron do anything that I can't do rather easily, so no I don't find his speed or accuracy while going full speed particularly impressive. He has won some matches. All of that is possible while using less than ideal technique.”
“I think Ron is a very good shooter, but I don't think the technique he is espousing is maximizing the ability to run a gun quickly and accurately. It's very common to find a pretty good shooter that isn't using pristine fundamentals.”
You must to understand that we are not trying to argue or cavil. Instead, I am suggesting you to meet Ron and discus and demonstrate your superior technique as you’ve claimed above. We are evolving constantly and will be glad to see something different, but you need to prove your statements. We are happy to offer you a free stay in our guest house, but regarding your comment to take care of your travel and meal expenses, I think you are messing us with a travel agency.
...and yes, I will be happy to shoot with you, as I enjoy to shoot with every shooter on a great match. You are welcome at USPSA Iron Sights Nationals.