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Need more info to help....Error 1 or Error 2 on display....rifle or pistol....distance from muzzle....other shooters next to you.
Or call CED they are helpfull.
~Mike
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I was going to do this also but i was unsure if the strong mounts would hold up to the rigors of 50 BMG reloading...so as i have a welder and some scrap metal lying around i made my my own.
Seems to work great.
~Mike
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Have you got the black plastic primer rod inserted into the primer tube?
Have you loosen up the primer feed block and let it float into position?
Have you cleaned the primer feed blocks black glide plate?
Have you taken the little metal cover off of the white plastic primer drop pin port and checked it for as new condition?
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How many rounds have you made on the press?
What make of primers are they?
~Mike
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I understand the worry about ring height with NV and maybe I'm asking a stupid question but how would ring height be a factor with BORS?
No height issue with BORS itself but you need to use BARRETT rings.
~Mike
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Its normal +/- 0.20 gr is about right.
You have to work on the timing and feel of your pull...trying taking more than 1 or 2 seconds to complete the pull.
Also, clean the powder system with drier cloth as i'm sure you have read before.
Also, do you have any loose kernals falling on to the shell plate? If so clean the funnel and stop at the bottom of the pull stroke.
My 2c worth....
~Mike
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I use 1/32 (or 1mm) of visible crimp for both my 45ACP and 308 as both are magazine fed.
Dunno anything about cowboy action...sry.
~Mike
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SMART RELOADER
http://www.grafs.com/product/294966
HORNADY
http://www.grafs.com/product/295420
Both a marketed as 0.1 gr accuracy.
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Currently in the same boat of 'needing to weight each charge'...right now its a not a good time to make a decision.
As we have both Hornady and Smart Reloader coming out with new power measures in the next 4-6 weeks.
I have also been looking at the acculab VCC and the now discontinued Denver MXX but your looking at a couple of hundred which would buy you either of the new powder measures above.
Prolly going to drop my cash on the new Hornady and get one of their new ultrasonic cleaners while i'm at it.
I think the 0.1 gr accuracy will be good enough for my NRA matches for now
Just my 2c, Mike
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Before you do that research stainless steel media tumbling using a Thumbers rotary tumbler.
Been hearing lots of rave reviews about it and people saying they will never go back to a vibratory tumbler.
http://www.thumlerstumbler.com/
~Mike
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Nice setup Bill.
I ended up going with the BARRETT ultra-high rings they are 1.4"...it worked out great.
I did have to dial down ~25 MOA to get sighted in but that is not unusual.
I also have the adjustable cheek weld up high but its not maxed out.
~Mike
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Are you reloading 7.62 for a 308 chamber?
On the bottom of the muzzle what caliber does it say?
~Mike
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Dillon BFR 50BMG Reloading Machine
Stock Number: 50000
Specifications Options Shown with optional 50 BMG Case Trimmer and optional 50BMG Carbide Sizing Die, mounting post not available at this time.
Now accepting pre-orders, with an anticipated shipping date of March 15, 2010.
TOTAL COST: $999.95
Shown with optional 50 BMG Case Trimmer and optional 50BMG Carbide Sizing Die.
50 BMG Trimmer Assembly-#50050, $374.95
50 BMG Carbide Size Die-#50075, $799.95 *
*A 50 BMG headspace case gage MUST be used to adjust the size die-order #14447 $34.00
$1,800
~Mike
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Been having similar issues with my 308...spoke to CED support and tried the following.
1) Move the sensor unit further away from the muzzle...i now use mine at max wire length.
2) Make sure there is no one shooting next to you on the range....mine picks up their muzzle blast and it was causing my E0 errors.
Hope this helps.
~Mike
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+2 for DEWEY
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If you will be adding a full length rail/handguard you will need rings higher than 1/2 you objective.
Using the LaRue SPR on my DPMS AP4 works well with the NF 2.5-10X32.
~Mike
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Zexy....
4-5 weeks....maybe!!!
Waiting on the seating die.
~Mike
That is looking good! (Thanks for the best photos I've seen to-date. It looked like top-side priming, ala M2 precisioin or Arizona ammo - how does that work into the operation?
GsT
Not too sure....but i'd guess you'll be sizing & depriming and checking trim length in one operation.
Next step...move up to prime, then place in 'spare' place in shell plate under primer...and carry on as normal.
Latest i've heard is that 4 lucky people have proto-types and are testing 'in the field'.
So i'm guessing they will need 1-2 months for testing atleast...then feedback time.
~Mike
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Ok 45.0 Gr is not gonna work for me.
Went to the range with 100 rds loaded up with 45.0 gr of varget a few days ago...brass was new WIN.
Ended up blowing out 15 primers and several more were sticking out and all were flattened.
So....
I decided to start again at 41.5 to 44.5 with some Black Hills Match as a control group.
Here are the results before the chrono died on 43.0....arrgghhhh!!! (working with CED to fix it).
CED Data Collector - 12/27/09
(f = flyers, (ED) = edited shots)
Total Strings = 8
Feet Per Second
41.5 gr - String 1
1) 2415.0 64.7
2) 2316.0 -34.3
3) 2329.0 -21.3
4) 2380.0 29.7
5) 2341.0 -9.3
6) 2328.0 -22.3
7) 2356.0 5.7
8) 2354.0 3.7
9) 2372.0 21.7
10) 2312.0 -38.3
High: 2415.0
Low: 2312.0
E.S.: 103.0
Ave.: 2350.3
S.D.: 32.1
95%: ±24.2
41.5 gr - String 2
1) 2373.0 19.2
2) 2367.0 13.2
3) 2346.0 -7.8
4) 2339.0 -14.8
5) 2368.0 14.2
6) 2386.0 32.2
7) 2298.0 -55.8 f
8) 2345.0 -8.8
9) 2365.0 11.2
10) 2351.0 -2.8
High: 2386.0
Low: 2298.0
E.S.: 88.0
Ave.: 2353.8
S.D.: 24.5
95%: ±18.5
42.0 gr - String 3
1) 2412.0 32.7
2) 2388.0 8.7
3) 2363.0 -16.3
4) 2386.0 6.7
5) 2379.0 -0.3
6) 2363.0 -16.3
7) 2409.0 29.7
8) 2364.0 -15.3
9) 2350.0 -29.3
High: 2412.0
Low: 2350.0
E.S.: 62.0
Ave.: 2379.3
S.D.: 21.5
95%: ±17.5
42.0 gr - String 4
1) 2388.0 19.8
2) 2377.0 8.8
3) 2340.0 -28.2
4) 2373.0 4.8
5) 2358.0 -10.2
6) 2357.0 -11.2
7) 2371.0 2.8
8) 2371.0 2.8
9) 2356.0 -12.2
10) 2391.0 22.8
High: 2391.0
Low: 2340.0
E.S.: 51.0
Ave.: 2368.2
S.D.: 15.6
95%: ±11.8
42.5 gr - String 5
1) 2435.0 29.8
2) 2426.0 20.8
3) 2381.0 -24.2
4) 2436.0 30.8
5) 2388.0 -17.2
6) 2373.0 -32.2
7) 2381.0 -24.2
8) 2416.0 10.8
9) 2422.0 16.8
10) 2394.0 -11.2
High: 2436.0
Low: 2373.0
E.S.: 63.0
Ave.: 2405.2
S.D.: 24.3
95%: ±18.3
42.5 gr - String 6
1) 2430.0 28.0
2) 2426.0 24.0
3) 2411.0 9.0
4) 2391.0 -11.0
5) 2377.0 -25.0
6) 2391.0 -11.0
7) 2372.0 -30.0
8) 2418.0 16.0
High: 2430.0
Low: 2372.0
E.S.: 58.0
Ave.: 2402.0
S.D.: 22.2
95%: ±19.8
BH Match - String 7
1) 2383.0 -68.4 f
2) 2450.0 -1.4
3) 2476.0 24.6
4) 2443.0 -8.4
5) 2470.0 18.6
6) 2460.0 8.6
7) 2458.0 6.6
8) 2446.0 -5.4
9) 2437.0 -14.4
10) 2491.0 39.6
High: 2491.0
Low: 2383.0
E.S.: 108.0
Ave.: 2451.4
S.D.: 29.1
95%: ±21.9
BH Match - String 8
1) 2473.0 24.2
2) 2460.0 11.2
3) 2473.0 24.2
4) 2460.0 11.2
5) 2456.0 7.2
6) 2401.0 -47.8
7) 2453.0 4.2
8) 2392.0 -56.8
9) 2487.0 38.2
10) 2433.0 -15.8
High: 2487.0
Low: 2392.0
E.S.: 95.0
Ave.: 2448.8
S.D.: 31.1
95%: ±23.5
Interesting to see the BH match ES and SD is not as good as the reloads and that the velocity is 'only' 2,450fps.
Seems that my barrel/chamber is limiting the max speed.
Again...the 42.5 and 43.0 (no chrono for 43.0) had the best groups.
Will fix the chrono and reloaded 42.0 to 43.0 in 0.2 gr increments and finish the testing of the 43.0 to 44.5.
~Mike
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Thanks for everyones help.
Gave the press return spring some slack...just has pressure on forward push now and the press feels much smoother.
Although i'm not a speed junkie reloader...about 45 mins for 100 rifle rds...i slowed down even more to the 1 second powder bar rule.
Here are the chrono results for the higher grain loads all the ES's and SD's are much better.
String 3 with 45.0 gr was sweet...put 14 in the same ragged hole at 100 yds with very little effort...cool!!!
Started to loose a few primers after 44.0 gr...i guess my 8 times reloaded brass can't hold the pressure.
Think i'll stick with 45.0 gr for now as it seems to be accuracy node for my rifle.
CED Data Collector - 12/23/09
(f = flyers, (ED) = edited shots)
Total Strings = 4
Feet Per Second
44.0gr - String 1
1) 2453.0 11.5
2) 2427.0 -14.5
3) 2437.0 -4.5
4) 2424.0 -17.5
5) 2427.0 -14.5
6) 2465.0 23.5
7) 2450.0 8.5
8) 2450.0 8.5
9) 2440.0 -1.5
10) 2442.0 0.5
High: 2465.0
Low: 2424.0
E.S.: 41.0
Ave.: 2441.5
S.D.: 13.2
95%: ±10.0
44.5 gr - String 2
1) 2486.0 22.8
2) 2474.0 10.8
3) 2456.0 -7.2
4) 2465.0 1.8
5) 2472.0 8.8
6) 2465.0 1.8
7) 2485.0 21.8
8) 2451.0 -12.2
9) 2498.0 34.8
10) 2433.0 -30.2
11) 2445.0 -18.2
12) 2501.0 37.8
13) 2477.0 13.8
14) 2448.0 -15.2
15) 2442.0 -21.2
16) 2430.0 -33.2
17) 2456.0 -7.2
18) 2454.0 -9.2
High: 2501.0
Low: 2430.0
E.S.: 71.0
Ave.: 2463.2
S.D.: 20.8
95%: ±10.6
45.0 gr - String 3
1) 2507.0 4.2
2) 2481.0 -21.8
3) 2503.0 0.2
4) 2489.0 -13.8
5) 2516.0 13.2
6) 2498.0 -4.8
7) 2502.0 -0.8
8) 2502.0 -0.8
9) 2503.0 0.2
10) 2517.0 14.2
11) 2501.0 -1.8
12) 2499.0 -3.8
13) 2506.0 3.2
14) 2522.0 19.2
15) 2495.0 -7.8
16) 2503.0 0.2
High: 2522.0
Low: 2481.0
E.S.: 41.0
Ave.: 2502.8
S.D.: 10.1
95%: ±5.6
45.5 gr - String 4
1) 2512.0 -20.2
2) 2526.0 -6.2
3) 2573.0 40.8
4) 2543.0 10.8
5) 2558.0 25.8
6) 2548.0 15.8
7) 2507.0 -25.2
8) 2509.0 -23.2
9) 2562.0 29.8
10) 2526.0 -6.2
11) 2526.0 -6.2
12) 2537.0 4.8
13) 2539.0 6.8
14) 2521.0 -11.2
15) 2532.0 -0.2
16) 2508.0 -24.2
17) 2520.0 -12.2
High: 2573.0
Low: 2507.0
E.S.: 66.0
Ave.: 2532.2
S.D.: 19.7
95%: ±10.4
(End Of Data)
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Found this...
308 match ammo comparison-Remington 700 SPS-V (700P)
Ammo Avg Velocity Std Dev Extr Sprd
Hornady 168gr Match 2694 fps 13.20 fps 43 fps
Winchester 168gr Supreme Match 2652 fps 16.16 fps 56 fps
Blackhills 168gr Match 2694 fps 20.52 fps 60 fps
Federal 168gr Gold Medal Match 2682 fps 9.23 fps 27 fps
HSM 168gr Match 2602 fps 22.60 fps 67 fps
Lapua 167gr Aficionado+ 2836 fps 23.85 fps 58 fps
Remington 168gr Premier Match 2716 fps 26.87 fps 87 fps
ABT 168gr 2704 fps 9.37 fps 34 fps
Norma 168gr Diamond Line 2545 fps 15.10 fps 48 fps
HSM 168gr Match Range 2739 fps 28.36 fps 77 fps
Fiocchi 168gr Exacta Rifle Match 2687 fps 16.55 fps 48 fps
HSM 168gr AMAX Match 2668 fps 34.78 fps 94 fps
Ultramax 168gr BTHP Remanufactured 2684 fps 25.69 fps 70 fps
Cor-Bon 168gr HPBT Performance Match 2722 fps 23.04 fps 90 fps
Spring River 168gr Custom 2652 fps 12.42 fps 29 fps
Average 2685.1 fps 19.85 fps 59.2 fps
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One other thing. A friend of mine loaded some Varget and was about 3 grains under what it should have been. We never chronoed it, but it was shooting 3-4 inch groups at a 100. Horrible out of a match gun. He then loaded with more powder and the group was MOA or less after that.
Yes...looking into this right now.
It appears too little powder will cause the SD to vary.
As you can see from the chrono results...as the grain weight increased the SD goes down.
Will load up some 44.5, 45.0 and 45.5 and test it with the BH match.
Thanks, Mike
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I would guess you are using a powder that isnt suitable for the application and powder measure you are using.
Powder = Varget
That is one of the issues there.. I bet you are cutting/crushing powder on on the upstroke.
I have pulled my bullets before and the powder doesn't look crushed.
A google search found another thread on BE its related to pistol but some good info.
http://www.brianenos.com/forums/lofiversio...php/t97744.html
~Mike
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your reloading data is incomplete, lots of people here can help but we need complete information, Like powder type ? Dies ? overall length?
WIN we get but dont assume we know what your other abbreviations mean,
I would guess you are using a powder that isnt suitable for the application and powder measure you are using.
Powder = Varget
Dies = RCBS X-dies
OAL = 2.785 +/- 0.005
Trim length = 2.005
WIN = Winchester
SMK = Sierra Match King bullets
We all know the Dillon doesn't throw the same but from my checks mine isn't abnormal...+/- 0.1-0.4
Will try some Blackhills match later as a control base group.
~Mike
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Took my new CED chrono to the range for the first time today...it yielded some interesting data.
Both my SD & ES are very high...was told 5-10 and 10-20 would be 'normal'.
DPMS LR-308 16.5" barrel
175 SMK
WIN brass
WIN primer
Varget
CED Data Collector - 12/21/09
(f = flyers, (ED) = edited shots)
Total Strings = 7
Feet Per Second
41.0 gr - String 1
1) 2350.0 20.8
2) 2323.0 -6.2
3) 2332.0 2.8
4) 2305.0 -24.2
5) 2287.0 -42.2
6) 2316.0 -13.2
7) 2346.0 16.8
8) 2314.0 -15.2
9) 2364.0 34.8
10) 2355.0 25.8
High: 2364.0
Low: 2287.0
E.S.: 77.0
Ave.: 2329.2
S.D.: 24.5
95%: ±18.5
41.5 gr - String 2
1) 2380.0 10.1
2) 2357.0 -12.9
3) 2405.0 35.1
4) 2358.0 -11.9
5) 2394.0 24.1
6) 2381.0 11.1
7) 2365.0 -4.9
8) 2323.0 -46.9
9) 2366.0 -3.9
High: 2405.0
Low: 2323.0
E.S.: 82.0
Ave.: 2369.9
S.D.: 23.9
95%: ±19.5
42.0 gr - String 3
1) 2383.0 -2.9
2) 2349.0 -36.9
3) 2377.0 -8.9
4) 2343.0 -42.9
5) 2383.0 -2.9
6) 2392.0 6.1
7) 2366.0 -19.9
8) 2437.0 51.1
9) 2443.0 57.1
High: 2443.0
Low: 2343.0
E.S.: 100.0
Ave.: 2385.9
S.D.: 34.6
95%: ±28.2
42.5 gr - String 4
1) 2483.0 97.0
2) 2407.0 21.0
3) 2344.0 -42.0
4) 2361.0 -25.0
5) 2340.0 -46.0
6) 2345.0 -41.0
7) 2422.0 36.0
8) 2383.0 -3.0
9) 2389.0 3.0
High: 2483.0
Low: 2340.0
E.S.: 143.0
Ave.: 2386.0
S.D.: 46.6
95%: ±38.0
43.0 gr - String 5
1) 2410.0 22.3
2) 2371.0 -16.7
3) 2391.0 3.3
4) 2351.0 -36.7
5) 2393.0 5.3
6) 2417.0 29.3
7) 2400.0 12.3
8) 2366.0 -21.7
9) 2390.0 2.3
High: 2417.0
Low: 2351.0
E.S.: 66.0
Ave.: 2387.7
S.D.: 21.4
95%: ±17.5
43.5 gr - String 6
1) 2383.0 -12.1
2) 2374.0 -21.1
3) 2401.0 5.9
4) 2396.0 0.9
5) 2388.0 -7.1
6) 2366.0 -29.1
7) 2411.0 15.9
8) 2409.0 13.9
9) 2429.0 33.9
10) 2394.0 -1.1
High: 2429.0
Low: 2366.0
E.S.: 63.0
Ave.: 2395.1
S.D.: 18.6
95%: ±14.0
44.0 gr - String 7
1) 2451.0 37.6
2) 2408.0 -5.4
3) 2396.0 -17.4
4) 2398.0 -15.4
5) 2395.0 -18.4
6) 2437.0 23.6
7) 2411.0 -2.4
8) 2403.0 -10.4
9) 2422.0 8.6
High: 2451.0
Low: 2395.0
E.S.: 56.0
Ave.: 2413.4
S.D.: 19.6
95%: ±16.0
(End Of Data)
Any thoughts?
Going to try the low (40.0 gr) and high (45.0 gr) ends later this week.
Best groups were at 41.5 and 42.0...although 42.0 has been my go to load until now.
~Mike
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Yeah i've loaded about 2,000 of 308 with my 550 having no issues at all.
175 Gr Sierra Match
42 Gr Varget
Winchester brass
Winchester primers
As i'm using the RCBS X-dies this eliminates the need for trimming and i'm able to achieve 10 reloadings for new winchester brass.
After 10 the necks tend to get a little hard and start spliting and i get a couple of primers dropping out, which i find when cleaning it.
As far a accuracy the ammo is more accurate than me
using a DPMS LR-308.~Mike
using a DPMS LR-308.
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