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    taking holster and belt off before shooting stage.

    in USPSA/IPSC Rules

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    Bed stage, all mags on one stand, unloaded pistol on the other. Bed itself is Area A. Shoot all targets from area A. 8 round CoF.

    I want to take my holster off before I shoot this stage, AM I legal to do so?

    No. See:

    5.2.5.3 Unless specified in the written stage briefing, or unless required by a Range Officer, the position of holsters and allied equipment must not be moved or changed by a competitor during a match. If a retaining strap is attached to a holster or magazine pouch, it must be applied or closed prior to issuance of the “Standby” command.

    The fact that you won't use the holster/pouches is irrelevant.....

    I routinely remove my rig before lunch and put it back on after lunch....I see lots of people do this. I guess that would be a violation as well... Sounds like an unenforceable rule.

    LiveShots @ Single Stack Nationals

    in USPSA Nationals

    Posted

    Awesome Paul

    Looking forward to meeting you there. I am shooting Friday, I think 201 squad with Julie and Sara and Many. That is until they figure out they put me on that squad and move me......

    I think that dude with half a booger picker is on that squad too.......

    Magazine Measuring Procedure

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    I just don't get it. You place the magazine in the gauge, you hold the magazine with enough force to keep it in place in the gauge. You check to see that there is no space above the two pads on the gauge where the magazine should be touching. If this really needs directions in the rulebook, then we are in sad shape. I have to believe that the gauge was created as a quick and sure method to test magazines. Using a steel ruler to perform this test would take much longer and really back up the chronograph stage. But, I am willing to bet that is what some of you want so the mag check is thrown out. :devil:

    Things to do to help you pass the mag gauge test. Remove any grip tape from the back 1/2" of the basepad. Chamfer the back corner of the mag behind the feed lips. Test your mags in a gauge before the match.

    Don't rely on the manufacturers claim that his basepads will fit the gauge. Magazines are not made to 0.001" tolerances. I have 9 SV mags and only two of them will pass the gauge with a Dawson +1 SNL basepad.

    Bud

    And how do you quantify "enough force to keep it in place"? Is it enough force to keep it in place with the back of the magazine touching the pads in the gauge? Or is it enough force to keep it in place that the mag doesn't fall out if the mag and gauge are held with the long axis going vertical?

    Hence the very reason I started this thread !!!

    Enough force to keep the magazine on top of the gauge while holding it up to a light to see if the pads are in contact with the magazine. Basically, very little force. I like it even better when I can just slide the mag up and down in the gauge. The gauge is made oversized, so a 'legal' magazine should fit in just by setting it on the gauge.

    As for the Glock basepads, I have not seen any that did not fit in the gauge. What model Glock magazines have this need for extra tall basepads?

    Bud

    Once again, your "idea" of how to measure magazines is not in the RULEBOOK

    Magazine Measuring Procedure

    in USPSA/IPSC Rules

    Posted

    I just don't get it. You place the magazine in the gauge, you hold the magazine with enough force to keep it in place in the gauge. You check to see that there is no space above the two pads on the gauge where the magazine should be touching. If this really needs directions in the rulebook, then we are in sad shape. I have to believe that the gauge was created as a quick and sure method to test magazines. Using a steel ruler to perform this test would take much longer and really back up the chronograph stage. But, I am willing to bet that is what some of you want so the mag check is thrown out. :devil:

    Things to do to help you pass the mag gauge test. Remove any grip tape from the back 1/2" of the basepad. Chamfer the back corner of the mag behind the feed lips. Test your mags in a gauge before the match.

    Don't rely on the manufacturers claim that his basepads will fit the gauge. Magazines are not made to 0.001" tolerances. I have 9 SV mags and only two of them will pass the gauge with a Dawson +1 SNL basepad.

    Bud

    And how do you quantify "enough force to keep it in place"? Is it enough force to keep it in place with the back of the magazine touching the pads in the gauge? Or is it enough force to keep it in place that the mag doesn't fall out if the mag and gauge are held with the long axis going vertical?

    Hence the very reason I started this thread !!!

    Magazine Measuring Procedure

    in USPSA/IPSC Rules

    Posted

    The gauge is not in the rulebook

    And nothing in that NROI statement give directions on how to use the gauge, including squeezing the mag in.

    Then why is the GAUGE used at major matches and the NATIONALS to check magazine length ???....When it is checked.

    Magazine Measuring Procedure

    in USPSA/IPSC Rules

    Posted · Edited by nwb01

    What is wrong with measuring magazines this way.

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    Cheers ....

    Good point/question.

    Doing it this way I feel you would end up with a subjective procedure... That is why I started this thread awhile back.

    If clearification can be made on HOW to USE the GAUGE and have it PRINTED in the RULEBOOK, then all of this wouldn't be an issue..

    We have a gauge with tolerances build in... Let's all learn how to use it !!!

    It's crazy that we are still having this discussion nearly 2 years later.

    Help me out here, Nick. You don't like the way the gauge was used. You don't like measuring it old school.

    What will work???

    I personally think the gauge is the way to measure, makes the process objective, which is what I love about USPSA. However, there is no mention of such gauge in the rule book or how to use the gauge. Yet, there is a BOD addendum saying the gauge is the official tool for measurement !!

    So......How is it to be used....

    Should the magazine rest in the gauge naturally ( no external force) ??

    Should the magazine have reasonable force applied in order to give the competitor every opportunity to comply ?? Which was my case BTW

    I personally don't care which method list above is used.... Lets pick one and use it...Oh ! and PUBLISH IT IN THE RULEBOOK !!!

    Magazine Measuring Procedure

    in USPSA/IPSC Rules

    Posted · Edited by nwb01

    What is wrong with measuring magazines this way.

    post-11688-0-47411000-1332731204_thumb.j

    Cheers ....

    Good point/question.

    Doing it this way I feel you would end up with a subjective procedure... That is why I started this thread awhile back.

    If clearification can be made on HOW to USE the GAUGE and have it PRINTED in the RULEBOOK, then all of this wouldn't be an issue..

    We have a gauge with tolerances build in... Let's all learn how to use it !!!

    It's crazy that we are still having this discussion nearly 2 years later.

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