Berrys or Extreme 180's

[MoBigAl]

I'm getting ready to buy several thousand bullets and load up for plinking/blasting sessions.

I've settled between the Berrys 180 FPDS or the Extreme 180. Price is pretty even for both bullets. Not looking for MT's or any other bullet, getting a deal on what I listed.

I will be shooting from a G22 and a G23 with factory barrels.

Powder will be WST with WSP for primers.

Any benefit to one of these bullets over the other?

[trickpony]

I've shot a bunch of the Extreme bullets in both 40 S&W and 9mm... Like them a lot and would buy them over Berry's.

[s_gorilla45]

Go with the Berry's and make sure to only crimp to the point of removing the belling from the case mouth. Overcrimping generally produces poor accuracy and in my G35 will cause them to keyhole. Do a search for the extreme bullets here. Not well thought of.

[LPatterson]

Between your 2 choices I would use Extreme's because Berry's is on my S$$$ list over their lead surcharge, I hold a grudge for a long time. Rainier's would be another choice if you could get as good a price break.

[MoBigAl]

Go with the Berry's and make sure to only crimp to the point of removing the belling from the case mouth. Overcrimping generally produces poor accuracy and in my G35 will cause them to keyhole. Do a search for the extreme bullets here. Not well thought of.

I like a light crimp also. Had keyholing problems with the G17's , backed the crimp off to near non-existant and problem solved.

Again, these bullets will be for plinking only. Are there problems with diameter consistency in the extremes?

[s_gorilla45]

The diameter consistency with the extremes was the major problem for me. In the two boxes of 500 that I have bought in the past, both had problems. .396 to .405 dia in the same box of bullets. The undersized bullets just couldn't be made to shoot well enough even for plinking!

I've had good experiences with Berry's and will buy them in the future if I need bullets and can't wait for Montana Gold.

[MoBigAl]

The diameter consistency with the extremes was the major problem for me. In the two boxes of 500 that I have bought in the past, both had problems. .396 to .405 dia in the same box of bullets. The undersized bullets just couldn't be made to shoot well enough even for plinking!

I've had good experiences with Berry's and will buy them in the future if I need bullets and can't wait for Montana Gold.

I've been leaning toward the Berry's despite the fact they are a little more pricey. The inconsistency of the xtremes has come up time after time.

I think I'm going with the Berry's...

[fastarget]

I have shot lots of 9 and 45 in Berrys. Very Soft and easy to load. There are deformations just from hitting the ramp while chambering.

Honestly I discovered that jacketed can be had for less, not sure why Berrys has gotten more costly, but montana gold or Zeros are about the same price.

[ss+P]

how many grains of WST powder are you using.

just got a pound of it. only thing local i could find.

i am shooting fmj 40's in a 5" 2011

[Classic_jon]

Take a look at the Montanna golds and Zeros as they are cheaper than the Berry's in most cases. The Montana Golds are also *much* more consistent in weight and diameter than the Berrys are. You can also shoot a jacketed bullet at higher velocities than you can the Berry's. The second I broke 1100 fps I started having issues with the Berry's plating peeling off.

Berry's are not "bad" but you can get a much better bullet from Montana Gold or Zero and be within pennies a bullet, and sometimes cheaper than the Berry's.

Another thing to consider is this, why load two different bullets when you can load just one and have it behave the same in practice as it does in competition.... That is the main reason I practice with what I shoot.