week hand assist device for benelli

[Sudden Death]

Ok, I need some opinions from all the week hand reloaders. I am designing a week hand reloading device for the benelli's, so my question is do I need to go further with my idea or stop, it goes something like this trigger finger pushes on tab and tab holds shell carrier down release tab and shell carrier goes back in place, is this something that will help or hender ?

[bigbrowndog]

I know that loading a Nova is much easier because you don't have to overcome the shell lifter everytime, So..............................................???????

trapr

[Sudden Death]

I know that loading a Nova is much easier because you don't have to overcome the shell lifter everytime, So..............................................???????

trapr

Sorry Trapr I should have been a little more clear this device is for a M1 / M2

[Jesse Tischauser]

I think Trapr was saying that your device may be of some use as it will make an M1/M2 lifter more like a Nova.

Now if you could only make me a 2nd thumb on my left hand...

...or a spring loaded shell caddy that holds 4 shells, has a belt clip, and I could hold the entire thing in my hand and simply thumb shells out of it into the magazine tube. Then I wouldn't have to worry about the pulling the shells out of the carrier perfectly everytime or dropping the shells in my hand that are waiting in line to be pushed into the gun.

Edited January 18, 2010 by jtischauser

[bigbrowndog]

Jesse is correct I was saying it may have merit because the Nova is nice with that feature although the Nova also has a much larger loading port??????

trapr

[cas]

I was thinking someone should design a mini mag well for the M2.

[mpeltier]

I know that loading a Nova is much easier because you don't have to overcome the shell lifter everytime, So..............................................???????

trapr

Does easier equate to faster? or more fumble free? or both or maybee just a differant feel? I am asking becaue i would be curious if others have timed and compared both ways to see if it actualy makes a significant differance when you have to overcome the resistance of the lifter on the M2. I have timed myself both ways and was surprised to find that even though it "felt" easier with the lifter up on my pump gun it was a dead heat on the timer. And I seemed to fumble shells at about the same rate with either system.

Anybody else compare both?? What were your results?

[Jesse Tischauser]

I know that loading a Nova is much easier because you don't have to overcome the shell lifter everytime, So..............................................???????

trapr

Does easier equate to faster? or more fumble free? or both or maybee just a differant feel? I am asking becaue i would be curious if others have timed and compared both ways to see if it actualy makes a significant differance when you have to overcome the resistance of the lifter on the M2. I have timed myself both ways and was surprised to find that even though it "felt" easier with the lifter up on my pump gun it was a dead heat on the timer. And I seemed to fumble shells at about the same rate with either system.

Anybody else compare both?? What were your results?

I don't have a Nova to compare to but I was thinking the same thing. If the lifter was up at all tunes during a 6-9 second reload it might save you a few tenths of a second at best which isn't much in an entire match.

That settles it. This gives me a reason to but a Nova so I can run a comparison.

[bigbrowndog]

OK, nova VS M1, 8 rds. time wise nova was faster, smoother, and much less fumbly. I practiced both last night, and there were more fumble free loads with the Nova and the times were close but, faster with the nova. although the times were different by only a very small margin, the number of times it took to get a smooth reload with "cold" hands was less with the Nova. so I think its easier to learn on a Nova and quicker to get right.

Is that due in part to the size of the opening your trying to push shells into????????????????? I think it has some to do with it, but also due to no pressure trying to push shells out of your hand as well!!!!

When I am working on my loads I always do some on the M1 because it is harder to load smoothly than with the Nova, so when I pick up the Nova and load, the shells just seem to "go home" much quicker!!!

BTW, 8 rds in <6.0 with both.

Trapr

Edited January 18, 2010 by bigbrowndog

[Jesse Tischauser]

BTW, 8 rds in <6.0 with both.

Very Nice! Is that running a par time or true shot to shot? I need goals for practice.

[bigbrowndog]

par time, in the house, safety on, gun at shoulder, on target, buzzer goes off, pull trigger, reload, reengage target and pull trigger. With Nova, no safety, and shuck forearm after pulling trigger, then all is the same.

safety is on so you can pull trigger without tripping the shell release.

its raining outside so I have to do my practice inside!!!!!

Trapr

Edited January 18, 2010 by bigbrowndog

[Sudden Death]

So guys is this device worth the time ? is the fumble factor worth it ?

[bigbrowndog]

Jeff, I'd say it all depends on cost and how complicated the device and attachments are? I do not see it being worthwhile for those of us who have mastered weakhand loading but for the beginner it may be a valuable tool.

Trapr

[Jesse Tischauser]

I will buy anything that is reliable and gives me a better chance at loading as fast as Trapr.