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How well do the early Caspian frames with the round trigger guard hold up to having a C-more mounted on the dust cover? Are the dust covers the same thickness as a Para? I'd like to use a Quinn mount or would a doubled side mount work better? I had a para many years ago with a C-more serendipity mount and had no problems with it. I just don't have any first hand experience with Caspian frames.

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How well do the early Caspian frames with the round trigger guard hold up to having a C-more mounted on the dust cover? Are the dust covers the same thickness as a Para? I'd like to use a Quinn mount or would a doubled side mount work better? I had a para many years ago with a C-more serendipity mount and had no problems with it. I just don't have any first hand experience with Caspian frames.

The std dust cover on that Caspian should hold up fine. All of my Caspians that I have added mounts on are the std dustcover.

Alan

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How well do the early Caspian frames with the round trigger guard hold up to having a C-more mounted on the dust cover? Are the dust covers the same thickness as a Para? I'd like to use a Quinn mount or would a doubled side mount work better? I had a para many years ago with a C-more serendipity mount and had no problems with it. I just don't have any first hand experience with Caspian frames.

I own an open 38 Supercomp with the early Caspian frame with the rounded trigger guard. The dust cover thickness is about the same as a Para P-16 I have around. I wanted to mount an Aimpoint Comp C on the Caspian, but my gunsmith felt there might not be enough meat there to hold up with that amount of weight with a single-sided mount. There isn't a whole lot of metal there for the mounting screws to hold on to and he thought cracking or loosening up might become an issue down the road with the Aimpoint. I eventually used a Docter with a JV Dynamics frame mount on the Caspian, so weight was not an issue. I have a Quinn II on my Dawson open gun and no issues there. Since the C-More isn't nearly as heavy as the Aimpoint, you should be ok with the Caspian and a Quinn mount. I would discuss it with your gunsmith first though.

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Thanks guys. I don't actually have the gun yet. I've found one I'm thinking of buying but it has an old red buff mount with scope rings on it. If I buy the gun the red buff mount has got to go. The price for the gun is really good though. An arrendondo mount with a c-more sts would make a nice lite weight set up. I did find another gun with an aimpoint comp xd mounted on it with a cool double sided mount made by Dlask. It's quite a bit more money though but still a good deal considering it's a Craig LTD. gun that hasn't been used much at all.

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JR, does the Red Bluff mount have the plunger tube built into it? If so, check with your smith to see if a standard 1911 tube can be installed. If I'm not mistaken, the tube is part of the Caspian frame and needs to be milled off to use the RB mount.

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JR

I've got a couple of older caspians with single sided mounts on them. one cracked the others fine. the cracked one was welded up and I had the smith make a reinforcing plate with the same hole pattern and welded that to the frame.

also regarding the redbuff mount, the plunger tube is integral with the mount, and the guys who converted to a different mount kept the part with the plunger tube and cut off the rest.

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Yeah I knew about the plunger tube deal on the 1911 mounts. I'd hoped they had gotten smart with the caspian mounts and designed them different since the plunger tube is part of the frame. I'll email EGW and ask them about replacing the plunger tube. I could always just cut the red buff mount and install a c-more and shoot the hell of it till the frame gives, then just get one of the new frames. Thanks for all the help guys.

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JR, does the Red Bluff mount have the plunger tube built into it? If so, check with your smith to see if a standard 1911 tube can be installed. If I'm not mistaken, the tube is part of the Caspian frame and needs to be milled off to use the RB mount.

JR

I shoot a round trigger guard Caspian with a Red Buff mount and indeed the frame needs to be milled to remove the plunger tube. I shoot with an Aimpoint Comp and my gunsmith modified (removed) most of the rail on the mount so there is just room for the 2 rings holding the scope. I don't know how to post pics but PM me and I will send you a pic that may help. I really like this set up, (prefer the aimpoints) and if I were building a new gun today I would set it up the same. I also saw the Fred Craig gun on Gunbroker and think that would be a great gun for the money.

Enjoy

Marty

A-7424

Red Buff did make a mount with intregal rings, I have one of these on my Single Stack open gun with an Aimpoint 5000 but I don't think they are available anymore.

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Caspian makes a double sided mount for the C-More that is a really steady and nice mount. :bow:;)

Jim

Sailors

I found this one on Caspians web site( Weigand mount). Not real crazy about the way the c-more mounts to it. Too bad it doesn't have a flat surface for a c-more like most mounts do. It would be perfect if it did. It would probably make a nice aimpoint mount with a little modification though.

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