Pro2AInPA Posted December 27, 2009 Share Posted December 27, 2009 (edited) I got a used 11-87 Special Purpose for Christmas and took it to the range today. Problem ensued immediately. I started shooting and the gun would not cycle AT ALL. The bolt would not move rearward whatsoever. It was a single shot shotgun, for all intents and purposes. So I took it apart. I immediately saw the problem. The gas cylinder spring was not in the correct position. For anyone who doesn't know what that is, go to the manual here and look on page 11, picture 12: http://www.remington.com/~/media/Files/Own...m_11001187.ashx Using a screw driver I was able to move this piece back down onto the cylinder where it was supposed to be, covering two holes. I loaded the shotgun with 5 rounds and tried again. It cycled 3 shells perfectly and then stopped cycling again. I took the gun apart again and moved the spring back where it is supposed to be again, and once again the gun cycled 3 shells and then choked. Now looking at the manual, I see that this gun is missing the gas cylinder collar, which can be seen in the same picture linked above. Would the part not being present cause the gas cylinder spring to come loose? If not, what else would cause it? I really hope someone can help me out on this!!! Edited December 27, 2009 by Pro2AInPA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duncan Posted December 27, 2009 Share Posted December 27, 2009 Link doesnt work for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pro2AInPA Posted December 27, 2009 Author Share Posted December 27, 2009 Link doesnt work for me. Should work now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mlmiller1 Posted December 27, 2009 Share Posted December 27, 2009 I don't know about the spring in the picture but the normal problems with an 1100/1187 start with the barrel seal, o-ring, & activator parts. Quite often, they are installed incorrectly or need a replacement o-ring. May I suggest that the special purpose gun was built with heavy loads in mind. If the barrel seal & O-ring are all good & installed correctly, you need to try some heavy loads to see if the gun will run. If it does, you may need to drill out the gas ports in the barrel to allow more gas for more reliable function, especially with light loads. MLM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GentlemanJim Posted December 27, 2009 Share Posted December 27, 2009 The collar keeps the spring in place I would plug the holes under the spring...that system is not too relyable Jim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twodownzero Posted December 27, 2009 Share Posted December 27, 2009 My 1100 won't run the cheap bulk packs from Wal Mart, but thus far, runs anything that comes in a box of 20. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bryan 45 Posted December 27, 2009 Share Posted December 27, 2009 (edited) I have a Special Purpose 21" that would not run on the Winchester 100 round value packs. I bought the 1187 supermag activator and it cycles great now- even when dry. But, my SP doesn't have the spring as shown in the picture. Edited December 27, 2009 by Bryan 45 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pro2AInPA Posted December 27, 2009 Author Share Posted December 27, 2009 I just had a crazy thought guys. Instead of plugging those holes, how about using some JB Weld to keep the spring in place? Like I said, when the spring was over the holes, the gun ran GREAT but during firing it moved out of position. If the JB weld will keep it in place, I think I'm in business!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GentlemanJim Posted December 27, 2009 Share Posted December 27, 2009 I would just buy the collar from brownells Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pro2AInPA Posted December 27, 2009 Author Share Posted December 27, 2009 I would just buy the collar from brownells I don't think the collar keeps the spring in place. I was told its only there to protect the wood forearms and isn't even used on synthetic forearms. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StealthyBlagga Posted December 27, 2009 Share Posted December 27, 2009 Get a new collar AND a new spring. Cheap parts - problem solved. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Steele Posted December 27, 2009 Share Posted December 27, 2009 I would just buy the collar from brownells I don't think the collar keeps the spring in place. I was told its only there to protect the wood forearms and isn't even used on synthetic forearms. I would have to agree with Jim, buy one from Brownells( gas cylinder collar). Manuel stated gas cylinder collar not used on super magnum. Ihave a synthetic and it does use collar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mlmiller1 Posted December 27, 2009 Share Posted December 27, 2009 Jim is the 1100/1187 expert. If you want to know how they work or have questions, listen to Jim. Not me, for sure! hahahaha. MLM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GentlemanJim Posted December 27, 2009 Share Posted December 27, 2009 I answer to many names...but expert? No expert here..not even a pert Jim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mlmiller1 Posted December 27, 2009 Share Posted December 27, 2009 I answer to many names...but expert? No expert here..not even a pert Jim Jim, How about "former spert"? I stand by my statement, Jim is the e............... ok, Great mechanic on Remi's (& AR's too) MLM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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