Pro2AInPA Posted December 23, 2009 Share Posted December 23, 2009 I'm shooting my first (of many to come!) USPSA match in less than a month. I've decided to shoot either Limited or Limited-10. How do I go about picking one? Pros/Cons of each? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Viggen Posted December 23, 2009 Share Posted December 23, 2009 What gun will you shoot in USPSA to begin with? If desperate get technical and scientific - go with the coin toss. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pro2AInPA Posted December 23, 2009 Author Share Posted December 23, 2009 What gun will you shoot in USPSA to begin with?If desperate get technical and scientific - go with the coin toss. Glock 17L for now even though I know I'll be scored minor. G35 after my tax refund. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Keen Posted December 23, 2009 Share Posted December 23, 2009 Pros/Cons of each? Well you can base your decision on what gun you plan to use. If it's a factory type gun (Glock, Sig, XD, whathave ya) then I would suggest L-10 but keep in mind you'll need more mags in L-10. 4-5 would be a great start. 6 would be better. But I shot my 1st Nationals in Limited with 2 mags that each held 19 rounds. Pretty good deal. Shooting Limited is alot easier with a gun that is competitive by holding somewhere in the neighborhood of 20 rounds. Much less than 19 and you're suddenly not as competitive as the widebody 2011's that hold 20-21 in every mag. I like Limited cause there's alot less reloading, and alot more shooting! Just more fun in my opinion! But you can use the same gun in either division if you like. Try one then try the other next time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Keen Posted December 23, 2009 Share Posted December 23, 2009 (edited) What gun will you shoot in USPSA to begin with?Glock 17L for now even though I know I'll be scored minor. G35 after my tax refund. Well then I would say Limited (minor). The Glock is VERY VERY competitive in Limited. Remember Dave Sevegny WON the 2006 LTD NATIONALS with a G35. Beating out all the 2011's. Not too shabby. If you want to be really competitive .... buy some Arredondo mag exts. for Glock. You can usee them on either 9mm or 40 mags (interchangebly) and get 22-23 rounds in 9mm or an easy 19-20 in 40. 2006 USPSA_Limited_Limited10_Revolver_Nationals - Final results for Limited Place Name USPSA Class Division PF Lady For Age Match Pts Match % 1 Dave Sevigny TY42164 GM Limited Major No No 1516.7026 100.00% 2 Chris Tilley TY38861 GM Limited Major No No 1514.3530 99.85% 3 Robert J. Leatham L684 GM Limited Major No No 1507.4774 99.39% 4 Todd Jarrett L2458 GM Limited Major No No 1501.1424 98.97% 5 Michael Seeklander A30288 GM Limited Major No No 1498.5921 98.81% [Edited to add year] Edited December 23, 2009 by Chris Keen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calmwater Posted December 23, 2009 Share Posted December 23, 2009 If you have high cap mags and not 10 rounders, I would shoot limited. You will have less reloads to worry about for your first match. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nik Habicht Posted December 23, 2009 Share Posted December 23, 2009 Limited minor's a good place to learn..... I started there..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pro2AInPA Posted December 23, 2009 Author Share Posted December 23, 2009 What gun will you shoot in USPSA to begin with?Glock 17L for now even though I know I'll be scored minor. G35 after my tax refund. Well then I would say Limited (minor). The Glock is VERY VERY competitive in Limited. Remember Dave Sevegny WON the 2006 LTD NATIONALS with a G35. Beating out all the 2011's. Not too shabby. If you want to be really competitive .... buy some Arredondo mag exts. for Glock. You can usee them on either 9mm or 40 mags (interchangebly) and get 22-23 rounds in 9mm or an easy 19-20 in 40. 2006 USPSA_Limited_Limited10_Revolver_Nationals - Final results for Limited Place Name USPSA Class Division PF Lady For Age Match Pts Match % 1 Dave Sevigny TY42164 GM Limited Major No No 1516.7026 100.00% 2 Chris Tilley TY38861 GM Limited Major No No 1514.3530 99.85% 3 Robert J. Leatham L684 GM Limited Major No No 1507.4774 99.39% 4 Todd Jarrett L2458 GM Limited Major No No 1501.1424 98.97% 5 Michael Seeklander A30288 GM Limited Major No No 1498.5921 98.81% [Edited to add year] Thanks everyone for the advice. Regarding mag extensions, I was planning on getting the Dawson extensions. Are they as good as the Arredondo? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boz1911 Posted December 23, 2009 Share Posted December 23, 2009 With mag extensions in 9mm I think your talking about 22-23 rounds in Limited minor. May not be much of a disadvantage for those 20-22 round stages even with "minor" scoring. You will need to shoot accurately though. Have fun Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Keen Posted December 23, 2009 Share Posted December 23, 2009 The ONLY mag extensions I would even consider are the ARREDONDOS. http://shootersconnectionstore.com/Arredon...Spring-P79.aspx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pro2AInPA Posted December 23, 2009 Author Share Posted December 23, 2009 The ONLY mag extensions I would even consider are the ARREDONDOS. http://shootersconnectionstore.com/Arredon...Spring-P79.aspx What makes them better than the Dawsons? I was under the impression that Dawson products had a good reputation in the competition community? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Keen Posted December 23, 2009 Share Posted December 23, 2009 Dawson makes good basepads, but I think the Arredondos will last longer (plastic), hold more rounds (20 total in 40), and have a checkered texture on the bottom already. Dawsons dont. (some people put skate tape on their mag basepads) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graham Smith Posted December 23, 2009 Share Posted December 23, 2009 There is nothing wrong with shooting Limited minor to start with. With a G17, you can probably get by with three mags with +5 extensions. Later, when you switch to a G35, you can use those same extensions on your .40 mags. I was going to shoot L10 to start and actually bought the extra mags I would need, but realized that one of the reasons I wanted to move to Limited was to spend less time worrying about when to change mags. As for L10 minor, I can't see any reason to shoot that rather than Production - there is almost nothing to gain from it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Keen Posted December 23, 2009 Share Posted December 23, 2009 Keep this in mind ... In L-10 you can use the same holster & mag placement on your belt, as well as using the extended basepads on your mags. You still can't put more than 10 rounds in the mags, but that combined with a magwell makes for easier reloads. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jman Posted December 23, 2009 Share Posted December 23, 2009 L10. The low entry level for that division insures you will finish at or near the top of the score board. It's encouraging and that feels good. Some will disagree. They're the kids who were tossed into the deep end of the pool to learn to swim. L10 is great for drilling in mag changes and stage break down. By this I mean you need to break your stage into smaller segments. It's easier to remember 4 small 8 round sections as opposed to 2 large vaguely defined ones. I tended to run by a target when I was focused more on the running early on. It's how I did it, you'll find yours. Just keep it pointed down range and have fun. Jim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pro2AInPA Posted December 23, 2009 Author Share Posted December 23, 2009 (edited) L10. The low entry level for that division insures you will finish at or near the top of the score board. It's encouraging and that feels good. Some will disagree. They're the kids who were tossed into the deep end of the pool to learn to swim. L10 is great for drilling in mag changes and stage break down. By this I mean you need to break your stage into smaller segments. It's easier to remember 4 small 8 round sections as opposed to 2 large vaguely defined ones. I tended to run by a target when I was focused more on the running early on. It's how I did it, you'll find yours. Just keep it pointed down range and have fun. Jim Since this is a small local match in January in PA, there might not be many shooters. Let's say I'm the ONLY shooter in L-10. How does this affect my classification? Edited December 23, 2009 by Pro2AInPA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boz1911 Posted December 23, 2009 Share Posted December 23, 2009 Does not affect classification, only the classifier stage which is calculated on a national basis will determine your class. It takes 4 initially to be classified. You may be the winner of your division though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pro2AInPA Posted December 23, 2009 Author Share Posted December 23, 2009 Does not affect classification, only the classifier stage which is calculated on a national basis will determine your class. It takes 4 initially to be classified. You may be the winner of your division though. Is there generally a classifier stage at every match? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boz1911 Posted December 23, 2009 Share Posted December 23, 2009 Does not affect classification, only the classifier stage which is calculated on a national basis will determine your class. It takes 4 initially to be classified. You may be the winner of your division though. Is there generally a classifier stage at every match? Normally one, at least here in Georgia that's what we do. Once in a while somebody puts on a special classifier match with 4-6 classifiers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rr4406pak Posted December 23, 2009 Share Posted December 23, 2009 The ONLY mag extensions I would even consider are the ARREDONDOS. +100 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nik Habicht Posted December 23, 2009 Share Posted December 23, 2009 Dawson makes good basepads, but I think the Arredondos will last longer (plastic), hold more rounds (20 total in 40), and have a checkered texture on the bottom already. Dawsons dont. (some people put skate tape on their mag basepads) I'm with Chris --- I've owned extensions from Grams, Dawson and Arredondo. The Arredondo's are easier to stuff an extra round in, and easier to seat under a closed slide..... The only downside is the need to carry the dis-assembly tool Arredondo supplies with each basepad kit..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkCO Posted December 23, 2009 Share Posted December 23, 2009 I'd start in Limited (minor). I use Taylor Freelance pads, almost exclusively...still the best. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skizeks Posted January 5, 2010 Share Posted January 5, 2010 Funny thing about shooting a Division. I started in limited division in 2001 because that was the gun I had. Then I went to the gun store and came home with another gun for another division. So I shot in that one too. And now I have shot in all divisions but open (I'm not old enough to shoot in open). They are all a blast to shoot, no matter how I do I have to have a great time doing it and no matter how I did I still have to go to work on Monday. Duane Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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