IDPA Question

[blu46and2]

This may sounds like a strange question but if IDPA shooting is meant to resemble real life scenarios then why must I load my 2nd and 3rd mags to 10 rounds. I wouldn't do this in real life.

[steel1212]

This may sounds like a strange question but if IDPA shooting is meant to resemble real life scenarios then why must I load my 2nd and 3rd mags to 10 rounds. I wouldn't do this in real life.

not all states allow you to have more than 10 round mags so its also to keep the playing field the same across the nation.

Edited December 15, 2009 by steel1212

[eerw]

It's a game. It's a rule.

[lugnut]

It's a game. It's a rule.

+1 Sometimes the answer is simply just that obvious!

[zero_down]

You wanna load more than 10 rounds, shoot USPSA. I too started in IDPA and shot it for years. Then I shot my first USPSA match and never looked back. Not to say that IDPA doesn't have it merits but - to me - USPSA is just more fun and you can load up untill your mag splits!

[TerryO]

USPSA Production and L10 are also 10 rounds for the same reason as steel1212 said. In someways being limited to 10 rounds adds challenge to the sport. You must plan your reloads and stage for it. People must not mind it because you only have to look at the numbers to see how popular Production Division is.

[Chills1994]

I will throw my two cents in here...for whatever that is worth...

Two "prongs" come quickly to mind.

First, IDPA is set up to be six shot revolver friendly. Consequently, the max round count for any string/stage is supposed to be just 18 rounds...the revolver guys only need to reload twice.

Second, since the cap is 18 rounds max per stage/string, there would be a lot of semi-auto shooters who could load all the way up and never have to do a reload during a stage. In turn, this would lead to an equipment race where competitors would be snatching up all the higher capacity 9mm double stacked guns. And IDPA is supposed to be about testing the skill of the competitor, not necessarily his or her ability to buy their way to the top with equipment.

[Jim Watson]

The real reason is that IDPA was organized in 1996 under the Assault Weapons Ban when a 10 round Klinton Klip was the most an American Commoner could buy new. Although the AWB expired in 2004 (so far), IDPA rules, procedures, and policies were pretty much locked in and they have left in the 10 round limit. As said, it keeps things even for those still in repressive jurisdictions, but that is not where it came from.

[lugnut]

The real reason is that IDPA was organized in 1996 under the Assault Weapons Ban when a 10 round Klinton Klip was the most an American Commoner could buy new. Although the AWB expired in 2004 (so far), IDPA rules, procedures, and policies were pretty much locked in and they have left in the 10 round limit. As said, it keeps things even for those still in repressive jurisdictions, but that is not where it came from.

Unfortunately the ban didn't expire for eveyone.... MA thought they knew more than all the supporting data and kept it. Yeah... it's pathetic here.

Edited December 15, 2009 by lugnut

[bossharley]

The real reason is that IDPA was organized in 1996 under the Assault Weapons Ban when a 10 round Klinton Klip was the most an American Commoner could buy new. Although the AWB expired in 2004 (so far), IDPA rules, procedures, and policies were pretty much locked in and they have left in the 10 round limit. As said, it keeps things even for those still in repressive jurisdictions, but that is not where it came from.

Unfortunately the ban didn't expire for eveyone.... MA thought they knew more than all the supporting data and kept it. Yeah... it's pathetic here.

****deleted rant****** I apologize to moderators and anybody who might have been offended.

I would like to get into USPSA, but it pretty much looks like a 2 h + drive to any club with regular matches (NY, MA or RI) - I can't do that on a regular basis with my schedule.

Edited December 16, 2009 by bossharley

[Duane Thomas]

This is seguing into a political discussion, which is verboten. Also we are really not hear to discuss the virtues and vices of USPSA/IPSC versus IDPA either. Please reread the Forum Guidelines. Thanks.

[Steve Koski]

Why can't I shoot IDPA matches with an AR-15 with a 22 LR conversion kit?

[RobMoore]

The benefits to the sport of limiting everyone to 10 rounds outweigh the slight increase in realism you personally receive by loading to your factory capacity.

[sirveyr]

Why can't I shoot IDPA matches with an AR-15 with a 22 LR conversion kit?

There are all sorts of "outlaw" action pistol groups around. I'm sure that they would let you, but not in a true IDPA match. Sorry.

[Steve Koski]

What about a phased plasma rifle in the 40 watt range?

[Duane Thomas]

Hey, buddy. Just what you see here.

[M-Bear]

Why can't I shoot IDPA matches with an AR-15 with a 22 LR conversion kit?

I would love to see your IDPA legal holster for that beast.

ALSO NO CONVERSIONS ALLOWED!

[tigerfan_9]

like they said....just to keep this equal, like USPSA production. IDPA is still a game with different rules (you keep score, there is a clock and a winner).

[MemphisMechanic]

Why can't I shoot IDPA matches with an AR-15 with a 22 LR conversion kit?

Because the conversion barrel is considered a "bull barrel". Otherwise, it'd be totally fine.

[Chris Christian]

Someone in an earlier posted noted that "IDPA was set up to be revolver friendly". As a IDPA EX class SSR revo shooter (will make MA next classifier)I can assure him that there is no such thing as a "revolver friendly" COF, unless the stage is six rounds or less... other than that they are all just "revolver survivable". If you're shooting a wheelgun it doesn't make any difference whether the COF is Vickers or Limited Vickers... for revo shooters they're all Limited.

Christ Christian

[Duane Thomas]

As a IDPA EX class SSR revo shooter (will make MA next classifier)

Now that's the power of positive thinking!

[Steve Koski]

I hate revolvers, simply because of the bitching I get from the shooters whenever a stage isn't revolver neutral. Get over it, you're never gonna compete with the bottom feeders. Be happy competing with the other revolver shooters.

[RobMoore]

I don't get the idea that to be revolver friendly it has to exclude a reload.

[Chris Christian]

I think some posters missed my point regarding revolver friendly/neutral... the point was that they don't... with a few exceptions... exist so there is no point in worrying about it. Revolver shooters, what few there are, are used to that concept.

Chris Christian

[Shibby]

I think some posters missed my point regarding revolver friendly/neutral... the point was that they don't... with a few exceptions... exist so there is no point in worrying about it. Revolver shooters, what few there are, are used to that concept.

Chris Christian

Exactly!!

Stage designers design stages to make the paying customer (shooters) happy. If revolver shooters want more revolver friendly stages then they need more revolver shooters at matches.

But I think most revovler shooters understand this.