E K Posted June 28, 2012 Share Posted June 28, 2012 Chris, Try this. http://pistol-training.com/drills/dot-torture Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flexmoney Posted June 28, 2012 Share Posted June 28, 2012 I am dense. On the 1+1 is this one draw then shoot middle dot once right dot once so Two shots, one on each dot, only one draw, correct? This would be referencing your #3 line in original post. Correct. I used to write all of that directly on the target, so I wouldn't have to go looking it up at the range. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flexmoney Posted June 28, 2012 Share Posted June 28, 2012 I ran a version of the dot drill on the weekend using the brianenos.com stickers at 10m. Ha...I was thinking of running it with the stickers and pushing it back a bit. How did that translate? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
38supPat Posted June 28, 2012 Author Share Posted June 28, 2012 It was good! The stickers just make it a whole lot easier to set up but on a "classic" target I find you can only get about 6 on with reasonable space between. On a USPSA target you should be able to get all 10 on (one in the b zone) I've been working on longer distance shooting anyways so 10m still seemed close, I was surprised that I wasn't pushing the draw and taking whatever time I needed to guarantee the hit and I was still regularly pushing below 1.5 on most draws. And had the odd one go into the 1.6's. I think with a Limited or production gun 10m would be fine though I might push to 12m, for Open I want to shoot this again @ 15m Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris iliff Posted June 28, 2012 Share Posted June 28, 2012 (edited) Chris, Try this. http://pistol-training.com/drills/dot-torture Oh and Pat, that whole pushing it back to 15m thing with an open gun just pisses me off!! Lol Post some target pics guys and state gun and distance. Thanks EK! Basically, that's exactly as Pat prescribed, but a little different on the reps and round count. Don't think that matters much though. I did it at 7 yards. Don't laugh!! Got some work to do as a lowly Open A at 7 yards!! Edited June 28, 2012 by Chris iliff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
38supPat Posted July 1, 2012 Author Share Posted July 1, 2012 So I did run it at 15m. It's pretty tough so I'll be making this my standard distance from now on. Little mistakes make huge misses...lol...a very unforgiving target. Weak hand was particularily tough. Lots to work on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris iliff Posted July 5, 2012 Share Posted July 5, 2012 Pat, would you recommend not changing distance until I can run it perfect at 7 yards? I thought to push it to 10 yards once I shoot it perfect at 7. I haven't looked at any of my times. I just use the start beep. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
38supPat Posted July 5, 2012 Author Share Posted July 5, 2012 Yeah, when you an clean it at 7 move back. Particularily with an Open gun. Ignore your times, I always run this without a timer. The instance above was one of the only times I have ever run it with a timer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris iliff Posted July 7, 2012 Share Posted July 7, 2012 Yeah, when you an clean it at 7 move back. Particularily with an Open gun. Ignore your times, I always run this without a timer. The instance above was one of the only times I have ever run it with a timer. Thanks Pat. I like that this simple to do drill is deceptively difficult. I did play around with the idea of timing it, but kinda figured pushing the distance would be the way to go. I do use my timer for a start beep, but that's all. I can't believe how much better my groups inside the circles are getting!! I like your addition of the top circle. My One draw and six shots in that circle is just great to me. My ability to shoot those at a pace that, to me, is fairly quick with a good group, was Suprising. Thanks again Pat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
38supPat Posted July 7, 2012 Author Share Posted July 7, 2012 I don't draw in the top circle, my primary goal on that target is just to shoot as good of a group as possible. It also checks your zero or where your POI is. With a dot gun sighted @15m you will hit a bit low. The other reason I don't draw on the top dot is I use it as a check against my grip when I draw. I've had occasions where I was not forming a good grip on the draw and I didn't realize this until I ran some drills without drawing and just started with the gun in my hand in a perfect grip. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris iliff Posted July 7, 2012 Share Posted July 7, 2012 Oh ok, I'm not rushing and I have been establishing a good grip, but I'll just do as prescribed from here on out. Thanks again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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