Loves2Shoot Posted August 19, 2009 Share Posted August 19, 2009 I was shooting a course and the stage description said to shoot tactical priority, where if the swinger was out you would see it first, but if it was away, you would see static targets first. The question we had is, if the swinger is not in view can you shoot the static targets first? When I was shooting and I came to that position the swinger wasn't there, so I shot the two statics and came back to the swinger and shot it as it came out. What is your call and why? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steel1212 Posted August 19, 2009 Share Posted August 19, 2009 I was shooting a course and the stage description said to shoot tactical priority, where if the swinger was out you would see it first, but if it was away, you would see static targets first. The question we had is, if the swinger is not in view can you shoot the static targets first? When I was shooting and I came to that position the swinger wasn't there, so I shot the two statics and came back to the swinger and shot it as it came out.What is your call and why? If its not there its not there and doesn't exist until its there right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobMoore Posted August 19, 2009 Share Posted August 19, 2009 I'd allow it as an SO, but you better be nimble, you better be quick, or I'm gonna hit you with my +3 stick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nwb01 Posted August 19, 2009 Share Posted August 19, 2009 Another Grey area of IDPA.... From my experience, it depends on the SO/MD, some will allow you to engage static targets before the swinger is visible. It is best to ask the questions during the walk through. YMMV Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rvb Posted August 19, 2009 Share Posted August 19, 2009 From my experience, it depends on the SO/MD... It is best to ask the questions during the walk through. YMMV Ditto. I've seen it ruled both ways. As a shooter, ask. As a MD/SO/stage designer, be prepared how you want to answer the question. I also asked this about a drop turner once... if the target isn't square enough for a < 2xbullet-diameter hole, then it's also not "visible" just like a hidden swinger, imo. -rvb Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loves2Shoot Posted August 19, 2009 Author Share Posted August 19, 2009 Thanks for the input all. I'd allow it as an SO, but you better be nimble, you better be quick, or I'm gonna hit you with my +3 stick. Well, I figure it took me less than a second to get the two statics and then I got a -0 hit on the swinger as it popped out from behind cover. I tend to be the only one to ask questions in the walk through, and I'll just add this to my list. I do not want to get the dreaded FTDR and even for an experienced shooter, there are a lot of things that are quite fuzzy, so I just as the SO if I can or can't do something. Then again sometimes during a course my instincts kick in and I do something wrong anyway, but I've never intended to IDPA SO's have a tough job, as I know that it would be hard for them to try to understand what a shooter is seeing when going through a course of fire. Thanks So's! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve J Posted August 19, 2009 Share Posted August 19, 2009 ... you better be nimble, you better be quick, or I'm gonna hit you with my +3 stick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nwb01 Posted August 19, 2009 Share Posted August 19, 2009 I tend to be the only one to ask questions in the walk through, and I'll just add this to my list. You must be the token gamer in the squad !!!!!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loves2Shoot Posted August 19, 2009 Author Share Posted August 19, 2009 (edited) I tend to be the only one to ask questions in the walk through, and I'll just add this to my list. You must be the token gamer in the squad !!!!!!!!!! Um, IDPA is a "game" so everyone shooting is a gamer. I just don't want to make sure I stay "between the lines." When you shoot accurately fast, you already have a target on you with some SO's. Edited August 19, 2009 by Loves2Shoot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nwb01 Posted August 19, 2009 Share Posted August 19, 2009 When you shoot accurately fast, you already have a target on you with some SO's. You said a mouthful there !!!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pittbug Posted August 20, 2009 Share Posted August 20, 2009 Scott: Did you take the static targets before the swinger appeared for the first time? Or did it appear, disappear, then you took the static targets, then returned to the swinger when it reappeared? I know it was all happening pretty quickly, but if you pie out to take the static targets (I'm assuming that you're using cover), then as the swinger appears there may be a question of cover? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loves2Shoot Posted August 20, 2009 Author Share Posted August 20, 2009 The swinger was activated from another shooting position, and I pied into the the position on the move, not seeing the swinger at all until after taking the statics. Even, then I still had to wait for it a tad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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