Nik Habicht Posted October 19, 2009 Share Posted October 19, 2009 Reopened. This thread wasn't closed for any one post ---- so let's knock off the bickering, and resume the discussion..... Thank you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RufDog Posted October 19, 2009 Share Posted October 19, 2009 (edited) Going off the previous claim of someone getting 1.5" at 50yds (which I don't believe for a number of reasons) G MAN, What are those reasons? Edited October 19, 2009 by RufDog Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G-ManBart Posted October 19, 2009 Share Posted October 19, 2009 (edited) What are those reasons? I wasn't planning on replying to this thread, to keep the peace, as it were, but didn't want to ignore your reply. I didn't add the reasons as it would have been pretty major thread drift as it's not specific to Sigs or the All Around (or any other gun really). If you want to start another thread wherever that might fit, I'd be glad to share my thoughts. Edit to add: On topic, I'd be very interested to hear what the best accuracy folks have seen with their All Around, but only if it was no BS, measured groups, no flyers discounted, no "best three of five" etc. I know they're an accurate gun, but hard numbers are always nice. Edited October 19, 2009 by G-ManBart Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HuskySig Posted October 20, 2009 Share Posted October 20, 2009 On topic, I'd be very interested to hear what the best accuracy folks have seen with their All Around, but only if it was no BS, measured groups, no flyers discounted, no "best three of five" etc. I know they're an accurate gun, but hard numbers are always nice. The factory test target that came with my Allround is 1.125" for a five shot group, shot at 25 meters. Not sure if that is off a rest or freestyle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RH45 Posted October 20, 2009 Share Posted October 20, 2009 On topic, I'd be very interested to hear what the best accuracy folks have seen with their All Around, but only if it was no BS, measured groups, no flyers discounted, no "best three of five" etc. I know they're an accurate gun, but hard numbers are always nice. The factory test target that came with my Allround is 1.125" for a five shot group, shot at 25 meters. Not sure if that is off a rest or freestyle. Hmm, my old, German 226 would keep them under an inch at 25 yards. I would have thought an All Around would be better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Attila Posted October 20, 2009 Share Posted October 20, 2009 Hmm, my old, German 226 would keep them under an inch at 25 yards. I would have thought an All Around would be better. the target a gun ships with does not indicate it's best performance. I doubt that once the testers made sure it met the requirements they continue testing each pistol to try and ring out the best accuracy. They are a mass production company, once the get an acceptable group they probably clean it, box it up and ship it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HuskySig Posted October 20, 2009 Share Posted October 20, 2009 I agree with your comments, the factory test target is not very impressive. Who knows how it's done and by whom? I'd love to see the results of an X-Five that is fired from a Ranson rest. I bet that would be impressive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RufDog Posted October 20, 2009 Share Posted October 20, 2009 What are those reasons? I wasn't planning on replying to this thread, to keep the peace, as it were, but didn't want to ignore your reply. I didn't add the reasons as it would have been pretty major thread drift as it's not specific to Sigs or the All Around (or any other gun really). If you want to start another thread wherever that might fit, I'd be glad to share my thoughts. Edit to add: On topic, I'd be very interested to hear what the best accuracy folks have seen with their All Around, but only if it was no BS, measured groups, no flyers discounted, no "best three of five" etc. I know they're an accurate gun, but hard numbers are always nice. Agreed Mr. Bart. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trader Posted October 21, 2009 Share Posted October 21, 2009 I wonder if any shooters at the NPSC used the X5 or X6 PPC models ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spd522 Posted October 25, 2009 Share Posted October 25, 2009 My All Around shoots most everything fine, naturally some better than others. For the most part, heavier bullets seem better in it. Yet in my P226, the same 147s that I love in the AA are rather sad. But it will drill 115s on top of each other all day. I will dig the box out of the safe and check the test target on it. I don't care how it does with someone else shooting unknown ammo. All I care is how I do with what I feed it. It's accurate enough that I plan on shooting some Bianchi matches (not necessarily the Cup) with it this year. Craig Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bomadera Posted February 2, 2010 Share Posted February 2, 2010 Shot my new X-5 Allround today, no complaints, shot about 300 misc.rnds, no problems, extraction excellent, DA a little heavy but smooth, SA very crisp, under 3#. The trigger is nice enough, I'm going to shoot it just like it is. Oh, did I tell you, it is accurate. If I had 20 year old eyes, no telling how well this thing would shoot. Thumbs up for my A-5 Allround. Then again if you have money to burn and really want a new pistol, an Allround is a fine choice. Oh I wish that was the case. The only thing I could do immediately is sell the sig and buy another pistol. If I want something like the all around I will have to save a while. I have heard a lot of people comment that the all arounds could benefit from the Grayguns workover as well which doesnt sit well with me considering the initial cost. The more I crunch the numbers I think I should just stick with the sig until I am ready to move into open or limited. I will probably never figure it out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Taylor Posted February 2, 2010 Share Posted February 2, 2010 No doubt about it, the X-Five series are rifles in pistol form when it comes to accuracy. Going off the previous claim of someone getting 1.5" at 50yds (which I don't believe for a number of reasons) it would make for a pretty inaccurate rifle. Heck, 1.5" at 100yds isn't very accurate for a rifle! Edit to add: The above was only meant to poke fun (as in ) at what seemed to be a silly post...nothing more, and it's not a swipe at Sig or the All Around. R, Gman: Oh ye of little faith!!! I've seen Jason shoot my Nowlin 9mm from prone at 50yds to a .78" group (6 shots). Get the ammo right and it will shoot even better. My 6" Springfield with Schuemann barrel (extensively worked on by Derrick)will shoot just over a .5" group at 50 yds. It is a pricey thing to get his kind of accuracy, but in Action Pistol it is worth it (I hope). Getting the right loads, etc. must not be overlooked, but accuracy is possible. Jason and I worked over a Buckmark and finally hit the combination of ammo(Green Tag)and gun to get under .5" at 50yds (10 shot group). Maybe you ought to shoot groups every now and then (Brian recommends this as a primary means to excellence). ;-) Best regards, Jim Taylor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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