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I have used Wolf primers previously with no problems. In fact, they were excellent. The ones I just received are now Silver and my Tanfolio does not like them. I had to switch to a heavier hammer spring. Has anyone else noticed that the cup material changed and that it is harder?

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I have used Wolf primers previously with no problems. In fact, they were excellent. The ones I just received are now Silver

Just rec'd my 1st batch of SRprimers, which are bronze or copper, and just had 3 out of 40

light hits - two went off the 2nd hit, but the other one didn't go off after five hits:(( Guess

I'll use them only for practice and hoard my last 3,000 WW primers for matches, etc.

Jack

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Just got 5K Wolf SPP last week and they are the type you describe. Since these will be used in my Tanfo Limited .40 I guess I better run a few rounds up and try them out. Were you using the stock spring before??

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I have used Wolf primers previously with no problems. In fact, they were excellent. The ones I just received are now Silver and my Tanfolio does not like them. I had to switch to a heavier hammer spring. Has anyone else noticed that the cup material changed and that it is harder?

I just recieved a case of LP and SP from wideners and the large are copper colored and small are silver. I have not loaded any yet though.

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I have used Wolf primers previously with no problems. In fact, they were excellent. The ones I just received are now Silver and my Tanfolio does not like them. I had to switch to a heavier hammer spring. Has anyone else noticed that the cup material changed and that it is harder?

Ding, ding...I think you may have answered my problem. I just got my first 5,000 batch of Wolf SPP in a couple of weeks ago and found the same thing. I didn't however, realize they had been changed.

I had 5 out of the 1st 50-rounds fail to light in my G-34. A couple of these lit with a 2nd hit, the others did not. I did all the usual checks (yes, they were fully seated) and since I do run a RPFPS with lightened steel FP, I suspected either the FP spring has weakened, hard primers or both. I did finish the day with loads using both Winchester and Federal with no problems whatsoever so I know for sure the Wolf's are at minimum, harder to ignite than either of them.

The FP spring did have a high round count so I switched it out for a fresh one and have a new batch of Wolf primed ready for next trip. If I still have problems I'll likely be forced to trade off the Wolfs since I run the same setup on all my range guns. I have never had a Federal, Winchester or even CCI fail to light that was not my fault and I can count them on one hand. I think the new Wolf's are just pretty tough to light.

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I have used Wolf primers previously with no problems. In fact, they were excellent. The ones I just received are now Silver and my Tanfolio does not like them. I had to switch to a heavier hammer spring. Has anyone else noticed that the cup material changed and that it is harder?

Which primer did you order? SP, SR, LP etc. I think they have three different versons of small rifle now, but only one small pistol and large pistol (excluding magnum). R,

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Yep!! I got a box of their SR primers Box. Had "223 small rifle primers" on the box and were silver in color. At least 4-5 out of a 100 will fail to fire. Most will go the second time, some take several tries and some never go. At fist I though is was me not seating deep enough, then made sure next time to seat them. No luck. Now I only use for practice.

MDA

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Just got 5K Wolf SPP last week and they are the type you describe. Since these will be used in my Tanfo Limited .40 I guess I better run a few rounds up and try them out. Were you using the stock spring before??

I was using a lighted hammer spring. But my backup gun had the 14/15 pound hammer spring. It still had two misfires, but they could have been primers not seated well.

I would recommend shooting them in practice before shooting them in a match.

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you are sure the box is not rifle primers?

the one not firing at all really bothers me.

I was told to check every primer for an anvil.

ooof what a pain in the patootie.

luck....

miranda

I have double checked and the box says Small Pistol. I do not understand how some people are getting Silver ones and some are getting the gold color.

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I'll check the ones I just got in from PV to see if I got the silver or gold colored ones.

I know the older SP Wolf I have are all gold.

BTW, I just started loading with the Wolf SP that are gold and I had to adjust my primer seating system because I was getting high primers and failures to fire. Once I adjusted the primer system I am 100%.

I don't know if Dillons have an adjustable primer system or not. My Lee Loadmaster does. :ph34r:

Chris

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Which primer did you order? SP, SR, LP etc. I think they have three different versons of small rifle now, but only one small pistol and large pistol (excluding magnum). R,

I ordered 10K SP and 10K SR....these ARE the SP. Not magnum, just SP.

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I don't know if Dillons have an adjustable primer system or not. My Lee Loadmaster does. :ph34r:

Chris

Chris, to the best of my knowledge, my 650 has no adjustment for primer seating. But I am curious to know what color your primers are. I have had ZERO failures with the old gold color and WAY TO MANY with these silver. I may have to get a heavy 17 pound spring (if they make it) for the Tanfo.

Thanks, Tom

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small pistol= silver

small rifle magnum= gold/bronze

:mellow:

thought they always have been...no?

No, at least not the ones I have loaded. All were gold/bronze before this shipment.

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I have a rather large order of SPs that just came in. When I pick them up I will check them and report back. My Open usually lights everything, so if some of you guys are stuck, perhaps I can buy some of them out so you can order something else. PM me if you want to unload some.

JT

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I'll load some SP for the Rio club match this weekend and report back as well. Running then in a G17 with a Vanek Classic. Has a reduced power striker spring. May end up with a factory striker spring back in it. I can live with that if I get 100% ignition.

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My Wolf Small Pistol Primers are golden in color. No misfires yet, but I just started using them. They don't seat as well as Federal so I don't think I'll buy Wolf again. I'll just spend the extra money for Federals.

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small pistol= silver

small rifle magnum= gold/bronze

:mellow:

thought they always have been...no?

No, ALL my Wolf Small Pistol primers have been gold/bronze.....my Wolf Small Rifle Magnum are silver and ARE harder than the SP as expected.

Lee

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Just to make sure, I checked the other boxes of the 5,000 new Wolf SPP I got in. Sure enough, all are nickle plated. I don't know if this change is why they're harder to ignite or not but there's no doubt, they are. If Federal ever catches up, I know what the cure is.

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From my Weidner's purchase. I haven't tested yet. From the last couple of batches of Wolf's I've learned to crush those primers home and they light.

I'm squishing mine in good. We'll see.

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