wolfie Posted October 29, 2009 Share Posted October 29, 2009 I am thinking about getting into reloading 9mm as I am starting to shoot a lot; 500 rounds a week or more and availability and cost of ammo is killing me. Out of curiosity what is the average cots per round that you guys are running? I have looked at the costs for bullets, brass, and primers and powder and it looks like the per round cost is about $0.30. Granted I was using high numbers for match grade bullets, new brass and expensive powder but this number seems high. Where are you guys ending up? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lcs Posted October 29, 2009 Share Posted October 29, 2009 Still no Ramshot pet loads ... guess it's just good for open/major in 9mm? I'll be trying Ramshot Competition one of these days.I'll be using 125 and 147gr lead bullets,looking for Minor.-Mike I have a bunch of Ramshot Competition. It works great with 200s in 40S&W (MAJOR). Let us know how it works with 9MM (MINOR). Will be trying some myself and trying some Silhouette loads also. Larry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M109R Posted October 29, 2009 Share Posted October 29, 2009 160g cast and 2.7g Solo 1000 so soft it's almost like cheating. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KennyW Posted October 29, 2009 Share Posted October 29, 2009 Looking to see what everyone likes for their "pet" 9mm load. ...{snip}...Please include: bullet type, weight, powder, charge, feel, consistency, other data (smoke, foulage, etc). Looking for common weights making minor (i.e. 115gr, 124-5gr, 147gr). Thanks, -T I'm a know nothing rookie. But, I've been using the following, if for no other reason than its what I can get that the guy behind the counter said will work well: 124gr Montana Gold FMJ 4.5gr Win 231 (using an RCBS uniflow drop that seem to be dead-nuts consistant) WSP primers Federal or Win brass OAL of ~1.135" (1.134" - 1.136" with RCBS carbide dies and single stage press) Crimp to just enough for bullet to properly headspace in my pistol (I spend time checking this for consistency when setting up. Ususally if its good for 10 in a row, it good enough for a 1,000) This seems to be hot enough to burn clean. I see just a little smoke when doing Bill-drills. And, the spent brass has just a little soot. My average muzzle velocity is 1,050fps giving a PF of 130 using a single Chrony F1. As far as how it feels: it has slightly less percieved recoil that factory. Other than that, I wouldn't know the difference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cy Soto Posted October 29, 2009 Share Posted October 29, 2009 (edited) Where are you guys ending up? My cost per round is approximately $0.09 using 124gr LRN bullets. . Edited October 29, 2009 by Cy Soto Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoNsTeR Posted October 29, 2009 Share Posted October 29, 2009 $0.11/rd using BBI 130s and N310, assuming brass gets used an average of 3 times before getting lost. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cy Soto Posted October 29, 2009 Share Posted October 29, 2009 160g cast and 2.7g Solo 1000 so soft it's almost like cheating. A 160gr bullet with that amount of powder must certainly produce a very soft recoil but don't you find yourself having to wait for a fraction of a sec longer on follow-up shots for the slide to return? I tried doing a similar thing with .40S&W minor load for Production and I felt like I was waiting so long for the slide to return that I started muscling the gun. That load setup didn't work for me but my wife loves it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baer45 Posted November 1, 2009 Share Posted November 1, 2009 I noticed no one mentioned Accurate 2,5 or #7. I had some I was getting ready to try. Is there any reason no one uses Accurate Powders? Looked to me like #5 would meter a heck of a lot easier then 231... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomfturner Posted January 6, 2010 Author Share Posted January 6, 2010 any autocomp minor users? I've gotten some to try, so I was wondering if anyone was using it for minor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Christian Posted January 6, 2010 Share Posted January 6, 2010 I think that Winchester Super Field (WSF) is an ideal 9mm powder... proper load density... very clean burn... very consistent ejection pattern. I load 3.8 grains with any 147 grain bullet (need 851 to make 125... get 880 average from 4.25 inch M&P or 4.75 CZ). I like the 147 grain because they recoil less than 115 and 124 bullets at the 125 PF, and they handle steel (pepper poppers) better than the lighter weights. No problems with reliability/ejction patterns. Chris Christian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tac_driver Posted February 26, 2010 Share Posted February 26, 2010 (edited) Caliber 9MM Barrel Length : 4in Firearm: Glock 19 StormLake barrel Date : 01/14/10 Temp : 50 Case : Winchester Crimp :0.376 PF:131 Primer :WolfSP COL:1.159 Powder :TiteGroup Weight:4.0 Bullet :Berry's Weight:124grs. Type : copper plated jacket LO 1057 HI 1075 AVG 1062 ES 18.51 SD 7.61 Comments: Snappy recoil _____________________________________ Caliber 9MM Barrel Length : 4in Firearm: Glock 19 StormLake barrel Date : 02/22/10 Temp:60 Case : Winchester Crimp :0.376 PF:130 Primer :WolfSP COL: 1.159 Powder :Clay's Weight:3.2 Bullet :Berry's Weight:147grs. Type : copper plated jacket LO 891.1 HI 907.1 AVG 900.8 ES 16.02 SD 8.48 Comments: soft recoil, clean burning _____________________________________ Caliber 9MM Barrel Length : 4in Firearm: Glock 19 StormLake barrel Date : 02/21/10 Temp:60 Case : Winchester Crimp :0.376 PF:131 Primer :WolfSP COL: 1.159 Powder :Clay's Weight:3.0 Bullet :Laser-Cast Weight:145grs. Type : LRN LO 910 HI 927.3 AVG 918.5 ES 17.09 SD 8.48 Commets: soft recoil, clean burning _____________________________________ Edited February 26, 2010 by tac_driver Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
usmc1974 Posted February 26, 2010 Share Posted February 26, 2010 147 lfp(.356) 5.1 grains power pistol ccispp oal 1.150 very low recoil knocks steel right over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigBore56 Posted February 26, 2010 Share Posted February 26, 2010 The load I am shooting in my STI Trojan is MG 124JHP over 6.0 gr. Power Pistol, 1.125 COAL. Seems to group very well at 25 yards, and minimal recoil. It is a fairly loud powder BTW. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McAllyn Posted February 26, 2010 Share Posted February 26, 2010 Zero 124FMJ VV N320 4.2g CCI SPP 1.145 OAL Whatever brass happens to roll underfoot at the range. Works perfect in 7 different 9mm pistols, all from different manufacturers. Depending on how bad the primers set me back, I'm in for $.12-.14 per round. Mac Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgedmond Posted February 27, 2010 Share Posted February 27, 2010 WIN brass CCI 500 6.6 3N38 MG 124 CMJ OAL 1.150" soft recoil, good accuracy tested in P-30, USP9f, XD-M Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbxdm9 Posted February 27, 2010 Share Posted February 27, 2010 Win231, 4.1 gr Rem 124gr FMJ bullet Win Small Pistol Primers COAL: 1.15" Costs me around $.13/round Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fayetteflash Posted February 27, 2010 Share Posted February 27, 2010 I'm running: Precision Black Moly 124gr Solo 1000 4.4gr 1.10" OAL Wolf Small Rifle primer 130.4pf through Springfield XDm 9mm at 50 degrees, 800' above sea level About one in every 100 is a light strike with Wolf SR. Ran almost perfectly with Winchester Sm Pistol Mag primers, but I have had a re-order with Powder Valley on back order for 10 months now, so Wolf is all I can get. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimmyZip Posted February 27, 2010 Share Posted February 27, 2010 (edited) Hello: My pet this week is 121 Montana Gold, 4.3grains Tite Group, Winchester primers and a OAL of 1.140". This is for a Glock 17. It could change next week Thansk, Eric That was the load I started out with when I got back into shooting. I burned through some of these today just to see how the shoot in my G17, and they did pretty good. Now, I'm running a 130gr BBI LCN, over 3.7 Solo1000 at an OAL of 1.125. This is my pet load, and I will stay with it for the next long while. It is just right in all aspects. Edited to add: This combo showed no appreciable lead in my G17 barrel when I cleaned after about 500 rounds. I got more leading running .40 in my TS barrel.( Same powder, same bullet maker.) Edited February 27, 2010 by JimmyZip Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LPatterson Posted February 27, 2010 Share Posted February 27, 2010 Win231, 4.1 gr Rem 124gr FMJ bullet Win Small Pistol Primers COAL: 1.15" Costs me around $.13/round Have you chronoed those? Bullet brass gun result with CED W231 4.2 Precision Delta 124 FMJ Win Glock 17 H 1030 L 995 ES 35 SD 10 A 1015 PF 125.9 W231 4.2 Zero 125 RN Win Glock 17 H 1036 L 1015 ES 21 SD 6 A 1025 PF 128.5 W231 4.2 Zero 125 RN Win XD H 1054 L 1025 ES 29 SD 8 A 1041 PF 130.2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeneBray Posted February 28, 2010 Share Posted February 28, 2010 I'm running: Precision Black Moly 124gr Solo 1000 4.4gr 1.10" OAL Wolf Small Rifle primer 130.4pf through Springfield XDm 9mm at 50 degrees, 800' above sea level About one in every 100 is a light strike with Wolf SR. Ran almost perfectly with Winchester Sm Pistol Mag primers, but I have had a re-order with Powder Valley on back order for 10 months now, so Wolf is all I can get. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeneBray Posted February 28, 2010 Share Posted February 28, 2010 I'm running: Precision Black Moly 124gr Solo 1000 4.4gr 1.10" OAL Wolf Small Rifle primer 130.4pf through Springfield XDm 9mm at 50 degrees, 800' above sea level About one in every 100 is a light strike with Wolf SR. Ran almost perfectly with Winchester Sm Pistol Mag primers, but I have had a re-order with Powder Valley on back order for 10 months now, so Wolf is all I can get. Have/had similar problems with Wolf SR primers in a CZ-75 SP01. Just kept increasing the primer seating depth until the problem went away. Normally, would not recommend that but I'm not the only one in the local area that experienced the same problem and all have done the same to correct it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbxdm9 Posted February 28, 2010 Share Posted February 28, 2010 (edited) Win231, 4.1 gr Rem 124gr FMJ bullet Win Small Pistol Primers COAL: 1.15" Costs me around $.13/round Have you chronoed those? Bullet brass gun result with CED W231 4.2 Precision Delta 124 FMJ Win Glock 17 H 1030 L 995 ES 35 SD 10 A 1015 PF 125.9 W231 4.2 Zero 125 RN Win Glock 17 H 1036 L 1015 ES 21 SD 6 A 1025 PF 128.5 W231 4.2 Zero 125 RN Win XD H 1054 L 1025 ES 29 SD 8 A 1041 PF 130.2 I only chrono'd similar loads with 4.3 and 4.4 grains, with my XDm. They averaged 1062 fps for a PF of 132. I wanted to bring it down close to PF of 128 so I cut the powder back to minimum for this load. I need to chrono my 4.1 loads to see if they exceed PF 125, might need to increase to 4.2 based on your results above. Edited February 28, 2010 by dbxdm9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam Pini Posted March 24, 2010 Share Posted March 24, 2010 Lately i've been running this load threw my g19 as a puffer load to play around with. Its really quiet threw my buddys AAC can. IMR PB, 3.8 gr Hornady XTP 124gr JHP bullets Federal Small Pistol Primers C.O.L: 1.25" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aztecdriver Posted March 25, 2010 Share Posted March 25, 2010 WTHeck - I'll throw one out there no one else has. 124 Gr MG FMJ 5.6GR HS-6 CCI550 1.110 OAL Glock 34 - 129 pf ave. Not as dirty as one might think and a good little snap - but I like it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hueycrew Posted March 26, 2010 Share Posted March 26, 2010 4g W231 124g Berry RN 1.140 Win SPP XD9 Tactical Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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