Whitefish Posted August 5, 2009 Share Posted August 5, 2009 125 gr Zero FMJ (.356) with 4.2 grains VV N320 and Winchester small pistol primers at 1.100" OCL. Chrono's at about a 132.5 PF out of my Glock 17 with a KKM barrel. I have run a load with 4.4 grains of Universal Clays and the same bullet, etc., as a back up, but didn't like the feel as much. I currently have some WST that I intend to experiment with as a back-up with everything else the same. It is nearly the same burn rate as N320, so I will start around 4 grains and work up or down as needed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CJDOUBLETAP Posted August 5, 2009 Share Posted August 5, 2009 125 gr Zero FMJ (.356) with 4.2 grains VV N320 and Winchester small pistol primers at 1.100" OCL. Chrono's at about a 132.5 PF out of my Glock 17 with a KKM barrel. I have run a load with 4.4 grains of Universal Clays and the same bullet, etc., as a back up, but didn't like the feel as much. I currently have some WST that I intend to experiment with as a back-up with everything else the same. It is nearly the same burn rate as N320, so I will start around 4 grains and work up or down as needed. I run a similar one... 125 Zero JHP .356 4.2 grains VV N320 Win. SP primers 1.130 OAL 130 power factor out of an XD9 Tactical Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1SOW Posted August 5, 2009 Share Posted August 5, 2009 MG 124CMJ or PD 124FMJ 4.2 grains VV N320 Fed. SP primers 1.135 OAL Soft shooting out of a CZ75B Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BMartens Posted August 5, 2009 Share Posted August 5, 2009 Favorite loads for 9x19, all are match worthy Mixed Brass WSP Primer CZ SP-01 / 4.72” bbl 130 CN Black Bullet Int 1.163 OAL 4.5 WSF 131 PF 124 FP Berry ** 1.090 OAL 3.9 Titegroup 129 PF 124 CMJ MG 1.140 OAL 4.2 Titegroup 134 PF 115 JHP MG 1.108 OAL 4.4 Titegroup 132 PF 147 CMJ MG 1.150 OAL 3.6 Titegroup 134PF ** Best accuracy All run about 20-25 FPS less through a standard M&P. Best accuracy is with Titegroup and plated or jacketed bullets. WSF with lead and molly gives good accuracy and light smoke. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chills1994 Posted August 5, 2009 Share Posted August 5, 2009 GeneBray on the first page wrote: Trying Wolf primers now. Having some difficulty get consistent seating depth with has led to some click, bang (when I can remember to pull the trigger twice vice rack the slide-they always fire the second time). For me, jury is still out on Wolf primers but I think its me NOT the primers. My buddy had problems with wolf primers too. Luckily he just bought a thousand of them to try at first. He switched back to Winchesters after that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coframer Posted August 7, 2009 Share Posted August 7, 2009 115 gr JHP (from Rocky Mountain Reloading) 4.2 gr Universal Clay 1.065 OAL 128 PF Glock 19 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomfturner Posted August 10, 2009 Author Share Posted August 10, 2009 I'm seeing lots of Titegroup in this, but I thought it was "smoky" with lead or moly bullets. Just curious if all these loads are still using that, most of them aren't lead though. Anybody using lead as a "pet" load wanna chime in? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wornout Trails Posted August 10, 2009 Share Posted August 10, 2009 I'm seeing lots of Titegroup in this, but I thought it was "smoky" with lead or moly bullets. Just curious if all these loads are still using that, most of them aren't lead though. Anybody using lead as a "pet" load wanna chime in? I run a lot of lead thru my Springfield 1911 9mm & the Springfield XDM. For matches I usually shoot the jacketed stuff and save old "smoky" (as you called it) for my practice shooting.....It's not your Titegroup that gives you the rain clouds with each round fired, but the wax lubricant on the lead bullets..... A pet load of mine for the Sprinfield 1911 9mm with a 10 lb spring: 115 Grain RN Sierra, with 3.5 grains of Clays, Federal primer in a Winchester case-------------slide comes straight back, no muzzel flip, sort of like shooting a comp. gun. W.T. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarge Posted August 10, 2009 Share Posted August 10, 2009 Favorite loads for 9x19, all are match worthyMixed Brass WSP Primer CZ SP-01 / 4.72” bbl 130 CN Black Bullet Int 1.163 OAL 4.5 WSF 131 PF 124 FP Berry ** 1.090 OAL 3.9 Titegroup 129 PF 124 CMJ MG 1.140 OAL 4.2 Titegroup 134 PF 115 JHP MG 1.108 OAL 4.4 Titegroup 132 PF 147 CMJ MG 1.150 OAL 3.6 Titegroup 134PF ** Best accuracy All run about 20-25 FPS less through a standard M&P. Best accuracy is with Titegroup and plated or jacketed bullets. WSF with lead and molly gives good accuracy and light smoke. What gun are you shooting. M&P pro? Curious as I shoot a pro and these loads are pretty close to mine so far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomfturner Posted August 13, 2009 Author Share Posted August 13, 2009 What happened to the Ramshot users ... nobody making any "pet" loads with that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BMartens Posted August 13, 2009 Share Posted August 13, 2009 Favorite loads for 9x19, all are match worthyMixed Brass WSP Primer CZ SP-01 / 4.72” bbl 130 CN Black Bullet Int 1.163 OAL 4.5 WSF 131 PF 124 FP Berry ** 1.090 OAL 3.9 Titegroup 129 PF 124 CMJ MG 1.140 OAL 4.2 Titegroup 134 PF 115 JHP MG 1.108 OAL 4.4 Titegroup 132 PF 147 CMJ MG 1.150 OAL 3.6 Titegroup 134PF ** Best accuracy All run about 20-25 FPS less through a standard M&P. Best accuracy is with Titegroup and plated or jacketed bullets. WSF with lead and molly gives good accuracy and light smoke. What gun are you shooting. M&P pro? Curious as I shoot a pro and these loads are pretty close to mine so far. My back up production gun is a standard 4.25" M&P. I always chrono in both guns to be sure that I have good match ammo. I had to bring out the M&P to finish at A3 so making sure is a good thing in case you have to re-visit the chrono stage. The only odd thing I have noticed is with 147 gr lead bullets. They will chrono almost exactly the same in both guns, sometimes the M&P will even be 10-20 FPS faster. Only with 147 gr lead, every other bullet will go 20-25 FPS slower in the shorter barreled M&P, as you would expect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
usmc1974 Posted August 19, 2009 Share Posted August 19, 2009 (edited) What I am shooting now, in my 34. It don't make major but, has no trouble laying steel down. 135 fmj .356 mixed brass 5.7 power pistol CCI SPP not too firm on the crimp. Edited August 19, 2009 by usmc1974 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArvinM Posted August 19, 2009 Share Posted August 19, 2009 CZ sp01 Titegroup 3.7 grains Montana Gold 124 1.15" oal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rhyrlik Posted August 20, 2009 Share Posted August 20, 2009 Any 147gr jacketed bullet loaded on top of 41. grains of WSF with a FC-100 primer @ 1.125" OAL. XTP's should be loaded closer to 1.100", but it is a perfectly safe load per Hornady's manual. It drills teenny weeny groups from my Sig. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomfturner Posted August 20, 2009 Author Share Posted August 20, 2009 Any 147gr jacketed bullet loaded on top of 41. grains of WSF with a FC-100 primer @ 1.125" OAL. XTP's should be loaded closer to 1.100", but it is a perfectly safe load per Hornady's manual. It drills teenny weeny groups from my Sig. just wondering how you get 41 grains of WSF in the case ... sorry having a little fun at your expense ... I'll go back to watching the stats on this grow. I'm still surprised there's no Ramshot users chiming in, is it just good for major 9mm and open? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rhyrlik Posted August 21, 2009 Share Posted August 21, 2009 just wondering how you get 41 grains of WSF in the case I go inside a black hole I meant 4.1 grains. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EmanP Posted August 21, 2009 Share Posted August 21, 2009 124gr MG HP 4.0gr TG Win primers but CCI or whatever if I can't get them 1.125 OAL since my chamber is tight in my Barsto Sig 226 About to switch to Solo 1000 since I'm out of Titegroup and have 8lbs of Solo. Also about to use some PMC primers I got. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scheirere Posted August 24, 2009 Share Posted August 24, 2009 My all time favorite was: 147 gr. precision delta (or other similar copper jacketed bullet) IMR 4756 @ 4.7 gr. COL: 1.100" WSP primers Good case fill (can't double charge), clean and accurate out of my Glock 34. Soft shooting with a 132-134 Pf rating. The most interesting thing is that it had almost no muzzle flash in a low light setting. And I seriously mean "almost no muzzle flash". Had everyone talking at lowlight/no light stages I've shot. But late last season I got a new 8lb keg of it that shot horribly! Over 100 fps swings in velocity with weighed/trickled charges, consistant case head stamps, etc. And I couldn't find a lot number sticker or marking on the keg so I could avoid it in the future. After that I went back to: 147 Precision Delta Hodgon Universal Clays @ 3.6 gr. COL: 1.100" WSP primers Clean and pretty accurate as well as fairly temp. stable. ~ 133-134 Pf Lately I've been experimenting with this load: 147gr. Montana Gold CMJ Alliant e3 @ 3.3 gr. COL: 1.100" WSP primers Very clean and soft shooting at 132-133 pf. Good case fill again and seems accurate with low SDs. However it's somewhat temperature unstable so try a pound before buying in bulk. I threw some rounds up on the car dashboard on a sunny day to get them VERY hot to the touch. They Averaged about 45 fps slower than a control sample at an ambient 80F. That puts a 133 PF load dangerously close to subminor for my tastes. I may bump the load a little to be safe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lvipscshooter Posted September 24, 2009 Share Posted September 24, 2009 Glock 34 124gr Montana Gold JHP 4.0 Gr. Titegroup 1.120 OAL Chrono at the 09 USPSA Nats had me at 134 PF Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gb32 Posted September 24, 2009 Share Posted September 24, 2009 In both my 5" M&Ps w/ Storm Lake barrels: 147gr MG FMJ 4.1 WSF Fed SP OAL- don't remember but pretty long. 133 pf Got this load from a friend of mine a couple years ago. Soft enough and tracks well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomfturner Posted September 25, 2009 Author Share Posted September 25, 2009 Still no Ramshot pet loads ... guess it's just good for open/major in 9mm? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kframe_mike Posted September 25, 2009 Share Posted September 25, 2009 Still no Ramshot pet loads ... guess it's just good for open/major in 9mm? I'll be trying Ramshot Competition one of these days.I'll be using 125 and 147gr lead bullets,looking for Minor.-Mike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harmon Posted September 25, 2009 Share Posted September 25, 2009 147 berry over 3.5-3.7 win231. super accurate. SOFT. Harmon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mistral404 Posted September 26, 2009 Share Posted September 26, 2009 VV320 at 4.0 gr. OAL 1.14, Zero 125--PF = 132 via two chronographs. Wolf Primers, various brass. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calishootr Posted September 26, 2009 Share Posted September 26, 2009 developed onefor a friend's glock 34 in production, its a MG 147 over 3.8 grs of VV 3n37 loaded out to 1.150, chrono's at around 135ish???? and is SOFT shooting, note....you will have to re-spring the glock as w/ the standard the brass dribbles out just past your wrist, and you have to be fairly locked out w/ your arms for it to do that....re-spring down to a 13lb and its golden Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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