kramer9 Posted July 6, 2009 Share Posted July 6, 2009 (edited) I am going to start reloading for my .45 ACP 1. Does brass make a difference, I notice .45 ACP brass out there. Is it really needed 2. Going to be loading a N320 setup, anyone point to good load data? 3. My 650 press is already setup with .40 and I do not think I can use the casefeeder with .45, so I am going to setup my 550B for .45 ACP. Edited July 6, 2009 by Singlestack To remove Ad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Singlestack Posted July 6, 2009 Share Posted July 6, 2009 1) Stay away from Amerc brass. 2)http://www.lapua.com/index.php?id=851 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Storm52 Posted July 6, 2009 Share Posted July 6, 2009 I am going to start reloading for my .45 ACP1. Does brass make a difference, I notice .45 ACP brass out there. Is it really needed If you are serious about reloading for the 45, then yes brass is needed, unless you are CCI and you could get by with aluminum. 2. Going to be loading a N320 setup, anyone point to good load data? I would really suggest a getting a couple manuals. I have used W321 and Clays. Clean and consistant. 3. My 650 press is already setup with .40 and I do not think I can use the casefeeder with .45, so I am going to setup my 550B for .45 ACP. Good idea, especially since you will eliminate having to swap out primer setup. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolf4980 Posted July 30, 2009 Share Posted July 30, 2009 I am going to start reloading for my .45 ACP1. Does brass make a difference, I notice .45 ACP brass out there. Is it really needed If you are serious about reloading for the 45, then yes brass is needed, unless you are CCI and you could get by with aluminum. 2. Going to be loading a N320 setup, anyone point to good load data? I would really suggest a getting a couple manuals. I have used W321 and Clays. Clean and consistant. 3. My 650 press is already setup with .40 and I do not think I can use the casefeeder with .45, so I am going to setup my 550B for .45 ACP. Good idea, especially since you will eliminate having to swap out primer setup. You should be able to use your casefeeder with the 45 I use it on my 650 for just about everything! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CSEMARTIN Posted July 30, 2009 Share Posted July 30, 2009 I am going to start reloading for my .45 ACP1. Does brass make a difference, I notice .45 ACP brass out there. Is it really needed 2. Going to be loading a N320 setup, anyone point to good load data? 3. My 650 press is already setup with .40 and I do not think I can use the casefeeder with .45, so I am going to setup my 550B for .45 ACP. Kramer9, There is no reason you can't use your 650. You'll need to get some things in order to do it, but it can be done. Since you have two presses, you might as well have a dedicated press for each caliber. I'll second what Singlestack said about A-merc brass. If you see it, do yourself and everyone else a favor and destroy it. Get rid of it. Throw it away in the garbage. What bullet are you using? A lot of shooters use N320 with great results and are very happy with it. I don't have any load data for it, but I'm positive that you can find load data for it on this forum or through VV. If you stick with the 550 to load your .45 ammo, you'd be better off using commercial brass and avoiding military brass such as S&B. .45 ACP is a low pressure round, and I believe you'll do just fine with whatever brass you can get your hands on. I don't believe you can reload steel or aluminum cases. I can think of three interpretations to your first question so I hope I've answered it for you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Downrange58 Posted January 1, 2011 Share Posted January 1, 2011 I am going to start reloading for my .45 ACP 1. Does brass make a difference, I notice .45 ACP brass out there. Is it really needed 2. Going to be loading a N320 setup, anyone point to good load data? 3. My 650 press is already setup with .40 and I do not think I can use the casefeeder with .45, so I am going to setup my 550B for .45 ACP. First of all, Happy New Year 2011! Second, did you ever find some good N320 data? Everyone says it is on here and I have found very little of it for what I need. I have been looking for over two weeks now. I am shooting MG 200gr flt pnts and there isn't much out there for FMJ N320 data. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R-Bros_JLR Posted January 1, 2011 Share Posted January 1, 2011 Are you stuck on N320? I found that 5.0g of Titegroup works really well with the MG 200g JFP in my P220. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Downrange58 Posted January 1, 2011 Share Posted January 1, 2011 Are you stuck on N320? I found that 5.0g of Titegroup works really well with the MG 200g JFP in my P220. Hey thanks for the reply! Yes I am 5 pounds stuck... I really do like what is being said about the N320 on BE and it seems as if it will work well in my .40 G23 also. Happy New Year! Kent Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrumpyOne Posted January 2, 2011 Share Posted January 2, 2011 Save the N320 for your 40 and go buy some TG for the 45. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Downrange58 Posted January 2, 2011 Share Posted January 2, 2011 Save the N320 for your 40 and go buy some TG for the 45. Thank you Oh Grumpy One.... I always enjoy your post! I have read too many good things about N320 and .45, and I really just want to have one powder at this point. Happy New Year! Kent Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrumpyOne Posted January 2, 2011 Share Posted January 2, 2011 (edited) Save the N320 for your 40 and go buy some TG for the 45. Thank you Oh Grumpy One.... I always enjoy your post! I have read too many good things about N320 and .45, and I really just want to have one powder at this point. Happy New Year! Kent I, too, once thought as you do now, my young Padewan. There is no magic powder. Many powders are decent for many caliber/loads, but not great. The only reason I suggest saving the N320 for your 40 is it supposedly works better in 40 than any other powder, and it is a whole lot more expensive than TG. I started with one powder, tried to make it work with everything (which it would mostly do), but in the end, I have ended up with many different powders, which can turn an ok shooting gun into a great shooting gun. The trick is to find them locally, in small amounts (1 lb) to avoid the hazmat fees, and try them. It is not a sin to have more than one powder on hand at any given time.... Edited January 2, 2011 by GrumpyOne Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anachronism Posted January 2, 2011 Share Posted January 2, 2011 Ummmm.... yes, it is necessary to have 45 ACP brass if you're loading 45 ACP. I don't believe we understand that question. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rocice Posted January 3, 2011 Share Posted January 3, 2011 For N320 you can look @ http://www.eabco.com/VihtaVuori01.pdf reloading guide. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GForceLizard Posted January 3, 2011 Share Posted January 3, 2011 Clays is the only powder for 45ACP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corey Posted January 3, 2011 Share Posted January 3, 2011 Clays is the only powder for 45ACP. A lot of people do like Clays, I personally hated it. I didnt like needing to be at the top of the scale when trying to make major PF and I didnt like the smoke it prodcued. plus it metered terribly through my powder measure. I'm using Titegroup now, and am wanting to try some N320 when i run out of TG. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
juan Posted January 3, 2011 Share Posted January 3, 2011 (edited) 45 WST 5.1 1.250 oal 200 grain moly meters great, very clean Edited January 3, 2011 by juan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emerson Posted January 3, 2011 Share Posted January 3, 2011 I have recently encountered some brass that is headstamped CBC. It is manufactured in Brazil and I discard the brass as soon as I discover it. Other than that and Amerc I've had no problems with brass, but beware the stuff that has small primer pockets. Namely Federal NT, Winchester NT, and lately it has been showing up in Fiocchi, CCI Blazer brass, and now Federal. As for powders, I like Titegroup and HP-38/WW231 for both jacketed and cast bullets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Downrange58 Posted January 4, 2011 Share Posted January 4, 2011 Save the N320 for your 40 and go buy some TG for the 45. Thank you Oh Grumpy One.... I always enjoy your post! I have read too many good things about N320 and .45, and I really just want to have one powder at this point. Happy New Year! Kent I, too, once thought as you do now, my young Padewan. There is no magic powder. Many powders are decent for many caliber/loads, but not great. The only reason I suggest saving the N320 for your 40 is it supposedly works better in 40 than any other powder, and it is a whole lot more expensive than TG. I started with one powder, tried to make it work with everything (which it would mostly do), but in the end, I have ended up with many different powders, which can turn an ok shooting gun into a great shooting gun. The trick is to find them locally, in small amounts (1 lb) to avoid the hazmat fees, and try them. It is not a sin to have more than one powder on hand at any given time.... I think it is safe to say that in about 7-8 months you will see a post from me saying "WoW! I tried some TG today and boy it sure works great for .45's! Sure glad I thought of that.... " Kent Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Downrange58 Posted January 4, 2011 Share Posted January 4, 2011 For N320 you can look @ http://www.eabco.com/VihtaVuori01.pdf reloading guide. Thank you Rocice! I have seen before. I am looking for a competitive recipe for a USPSA minor load for my 200gr Montana Gold Flat Points in my G21. 4.7 of N320 wouldn't even cycle the slide with a #15 recoil spring. I will load up some 4.9 and 5.0 and see how it goes. Happy New Year! Kent Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Downrange58 Posted January 4, 2011 Share Posted January 4, 2011 Clays is the only powder for 45ACP. A lot of people do like Clays, I personally hated it. I didnt like needing to be at the top of the scale when trying to make major PF and I didnt like the smoke it prodcued. plus it metered terribly through my powder measure. I'm using Titegroup now, and am wanting to try some N320 when i run out of TG. Hey, thank you both for taking the time to reply! I have read on BE that Clays for a .45 minor load works great. Are there two powders with the name of "Clays"? A certain Grumpy One says that TG would work very well for me also... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fred5876r Posted January 4, 2011 Share Posted January 4, 2011 I like WSF for .45. If you look at the tables, for a given velocity, it gives about the lowest possible pressure. I know of no downsides to it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrumpyOne Posted January 4, 2011 Share Posted January 4, 2011 Clays is the only powder for 45ACP. A lot of people do like Clays, I personally hated it. I didnt like needing to be at the top of the scale when trying to make major PF and I didnt like the smoke it prodcued. plus it metered terribly through my powder measure. I'm using Titegroup now, and am wanting to try some N320 when i run out of TG. Hey, thank you both for taking the time to reply! I have read on BE that Clays for a .45 minor load works great. Are there two powders with the name of "Clays"? A certain Grumpy One says that TG would work very well for me also... There are THREE powders named "Clays". Straight "CLAYS", International Clays, and Universal Clays. When someone sayd "Clays", they generally mean the first, but you must ask to be sure. The others have changed their names (I think one is just called Universal now, and the other is just called International), but you could probably find all three sitting side by side on the shelf labeled as Universal Clays, International Clays and Clays. THEY ARE NOT THE SAME! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Downrange58 Posted January 5, 2011 Share Posted January 5, 2011 Clays is the only powder for 45ACP. A lot of people do like Clays, I personally hated it. I didnt like needing to be at the top of the scale when trying to make major PF and I didnt like the smoke it prodcued. plus it metered terribly through my powder measure. I'm using Titegroup now, and am wanting to try some N320 when i run out of TG. Hey, thank you both for taking the time to reply! I have read on BE that Clays for a .45 minor load works great. Are there two powders with the name of "Clays"? A certain Grumpy One says that TG would work very well for me also... There are THREE powders named "Clays". Straight "CLAYS", International Clays, and Universal Clays. When someone sayd "Clays", they generally mean the first, but you must ask to be sure. The others have changed their names (I think one is just called Universal now, and the other is just called International), but you could probably find all three sitting side by side on the shelf labeled as Universal Clays, International Clays and Clays. THEY ARE NOT THE SAME! I remember reading that on a post awhile ago and thank you for spelling it out for me!! Cheers, Kent Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrumpyOne Posted January 5, 2011 Share Posted January 5, 2011 Clays is the only powder for 45ACP. A lot of people do like Clays, I personally hated it. I didnt like needing to be at the top of the scale when trying to make major PF and I didnt like the smoke it prodcued. plus it metered terribly through my powder measure. I'm using Titegroup now, and am wanting to try some N320 when i run out of TG. Hey, thank you both for taking the time to reply! I have read on BE that Clays for a .45 minor load works great. Are there two powders with the name of "Clays"? A certain Grumpy One says that TG would work very well for me also... There are THREE powders named "Clays". Straight "CLAYS", International Clays, and Universal Clays. When someone sayd "Clays", they generally mean the first, but you must ask to be sure. The others have changed their names (I think one is just called Universal now, and the other is just called International), but you could probably find all three sitting side by side on the shelf labeled as Universal Clays, International Clays and Clays. THEY ARE NOT THE SAME! I remember reading that on a post awhile ago and thank you for spelling it out for me!! Cheers, Kent YW! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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