Hungry Beagle Posted October 14, 2003 Share Posted October 14, 2003 Okay, after 4 years of shooting an open Foo-Foo gun, I decided to try shooting Production with a Glock 22. After spending a whole bunch of time trying to find a minor load (everybody seems to be trying to find ways of getting hotter and faster instead) we finally decided on 3.6 grains of Titegroup under a 180grn jacketed bullet. Other than the fact that the powder takes up so little case volume, has anybody run into any problems shooting that little powder in a case? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flexmoney Posted October 14, 2003 Share Posted October 14, 2003 No problems that I have seen with TiteGroup. I use 3.5 of TG with 180's @ 1.130-1.135 OAL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redmercury2 Posted October 14, 2003 Share Posted October 14, 2003 I USE 4.0 titegroup with a zero 180 jhp at 1.2 inches Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew_Mink Posted October 14, 2003 Share Posted October 14, 2003 I shot a 180gr minor load that had less powder than that for a year. I think I used 3.3gr of Titegroup in a G35, and I never had a problem with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Anderson Posted October 14, 2003 Share Posted October 14, 2003 Try just enough clays to work the gun and make 130 pf. Like little clouds of softness... (much like Good toilet paper! ) SA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D.Hayden Posted October 14, 2003 Share Posted October 14, 2003 For light loads like this, do you need to reduce the recoil spring? Anyone have a starting place for Unique, under a 180gr? I was thinking of a PF of around 140. (I usually use TiteGroup, but have a few pounds of Unique to use) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flexmoney Posted October 14, 2003 Share Posted October 14, 2003 You will likely need to go with a reduced recoil spring. I use a stock spring in my G35 (with the load above). My spring is well broken in though. My brass just rolls out of the gun. It would likley be a smart idea to change it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uscbigdawg Posted October 14, 2003 Share Posted October 14, 2003 Other powders that you might want to consider: Vihtavoury N320 or 3N37 Winchester Super Field & Super Target Universal Clays Just some thoughts. Rich Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bucky Posted October 14, 2003 Share Posted October 14, 2003 I tested N320, N340, 7625, Universal Clays and Clays in both the 180 and 165 loads, all at or about 133 pf. Test gun was a Glock 35 with a stock, but much shot, recoil spring. I found the 180g behind 3.2g of Clays to be the softest, and even softer than the lightest load I had in a Glock 34. If I were to shoot a Glock in production, I'd use a 35 with this load. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twix Posted October 14, 2003 Share Posted October 14, 2003 With Win Super Field I use 5.0 grains with a jacketed 180 bullet. This is about 135 power factor. I stopped there because it was the lightest load my stock (pretty new recoil spring) G35 would cycle. It's pretty soft and seems to be very accurate. I am working on loads for Tightgroup now. Right now for a lead 180 (only out of my Barsto barreled G35) I use 3.3 grains of Tightgroup. It's very soft, not as accurate as the jacketed, smokey, and the bullet lube gums up the chamber. Going back to jacketed or maybe try some plated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billwright Posted October 15, 2003 Share Posted October 15, 2003 I have found that 3.2 gn of WST with 180gn Lead gives me 135 pf in my mod 22 glock and feels quite good. Bill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Di Vita Posted October 15, 2003 Share Posted October 15, 2003 Bucky: What was your charge/OAL with the N340? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hungry Beagle Posted October 15, 2003 Author Share Posted October 15, 2003 Thanks for all of the responses, folks. We settled on 3.6 grains of Titegroup under a Montana Gold 180 grn bullet. Out of a Glock 22 we were getting around a 134 pf and bursting out laughing with every shot we fired. It was like holding onto a mouse farting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twix Posted October 15, 2003 Share Posted October 15, 2003 Sounds about right. Were the mouse eating cheese and drinking beer? Or just eating cheese? I bet they didn't even smell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bucky Posted October 15, 2003 Share Posted October 15, 2003 Jake, My notes show 4.3 Grains giving me a 135 power factor using VV N340, a Hornady HAP 180 grain bullet at 1.126 OAL. My comment for this are "Fed Well with stock spring, snappy but returns to point of aim well". Using the same overall length, 4.9 grains behind a Star 155 grain was giving me a 123 pf. Unfortunately, I didn't have anything hotter for that session (my tests included 3 seperate days behind the chrono), but I felt that this load was way too snappy to persue the N340 / 155g combination any further. Notes are "Too snappy, even at this low a pf". Note: Test gun was a basically stock G35 with a well broken in, original spring. Hope this helps. Bucky. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bucky Posted October 15, 2003 Share Posted October 15, 2003 It should be noted that my tests were all done using 8 shot averages. No highs or lows were factored out, though with VV you rarely get such spikes. Chrono was a CED and chronographing was done indoor using the infared screens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Di Vita Posted October 16, 2003 Share Posted October 16, 2003 Thanks a bunch buddy. I'll cook some up and crank em off this weekend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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