BritinUSA Posted May 18, 2009 Share Posted May 18, 2009 Drive 1.5 hours to a match, pay the fee only to have equipment malfunctions. It seems the more money I spend on this sport the more unreliable my stuff seems to get. Multiple nose-dives on stages and then the same magazine works perfectly the next stage. It's driving me nuts. I use old brass, new brass, doesn't seem to make any difference. Tried changing recoil springs, magazine springs, checked feed lips, all ok, tried altering them anyway, sometimes it works and sometimes it doesn't. Each time I spend more and more money trying to fix these problems and it just introduces new ones. Sprained my wrist clearing a jam today ! I never know if the gun is going to work each time I press the trigger. I have NEVER been so FRUSTRATED !!!!!! I am just about ready to ****ing quit ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TM262 Posted May 18, 2009 Share Posted May 18, 2009 I know the feeling. I have a room full of high dollar blasters. The gun I enjoy the most is a second hand $600.00 Springfield XD9. Go figure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Micah Posted May 18, 2009 Share Posted May 18, 2009 Sorry to hear about your equipment issues Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j1b Posted May 18, 2009 Share Posted May 18, 2009 I'm sorry to hear the day was so tough. I had mine last weekend, and I felt similarly. I didn't shoot IPSC this weekend. With my heater needing a little surgery I've got to send it away to the doctor. I'd be lying if I didn't say it wasn't a bit of a relief. Nice not to think about the game for the weekend. I picked up the O/U shotgun and pocked at some clays. Loved every second of it - all guns can get a little cranky but there is something to be said for a simple O/U shotgun. I hope your next match goes better. I definitly hope you get your gun issues fixed. This game is tough all by itself. Equipment issues make it much, much more difficult. Jack Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe4d Posted May 18, 2009 Share Posted May 18, 2009 Throw the magazine away, it could be something like a mis cut mag catch hole. It could also be a worn mag catch. If its only doing it with one mag use that mag for dry fire. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steel1212 Posted May 18, 2009 Share Posted May 18, 2009 Throw the magazine away, it could be something like a mis cut mag catch hole. It could also be a worn mag catch. If its only doing it with one mag use that mag for dry fire. +1 Remove the problem. Like you said we spend to much on the sport to not enjoy it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davecutts Posted May 18, 2009 Share Posted May 18, 2009 Been there done that. Best of luck solving your problems, and as some encouragement once you get everything running like a top you'll be stoked to shoot like you really can. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carmoney Posted May 18, 2009 Share Posted May 18, 2009 I really think these semi-auto pistols are just a passing fad anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlamoShooter Posted May 18, 2009 Share Posted May 18, 2009 Dude! We all hate it. its days like this that make winning so sweet. Remove the emotion, Detache from the problem and thing your way out. Could be the barrel is not drooping down all the way. how about a new main spring ? Remove the slide put the fully loaded mag in the frame and look for "play" ? is the mag catch letting the mag jump around? Your a sharp guy =use it You don't want to get as Old as me and find that shooting has worn you teeth down Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlamoShooter Posted May 18, 2009 Share Posted May 18, 2009 I really think these semi-auto pistols are just a passing fad anyway. That one made my eyes water Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BritinUSA Posted May 18, 2009 Author Share Posted May 18, 2009 Throw the magazine away, it could be something like a mis cut mag catch hole. It could also be a worn mag catch. If its only doing it with one mag use that mag for dry fire. That's the crazy thing. I will use a mag that works then on the next stage that EXACT same magazine will get nose-dives. Or I'll use a magazine that failed on a stage and it will work next time. It seems totally random, if it was the same magazine failing each time the fix would be easy. The goal-posts keep moving...! I've never had a gun do this before, it's nuts. The only thing left for me to try is mucking around with OAL and checking out the barrel to see if it's not dropping down enough. It's just weird. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Keen Posted May 18, 2009 Share Posted May 18, 2009 Cracked Grip? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neomet Posted May 18, 2009 Share Posted May 18, 2009 Sorry to hear the news and empathize with the frustration. You are still running roundnose projectiles right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merlin Orr Posted May 18, 2009 Share Posted May 18, 2009 Try a different brand and/or combination of mag spring & follower. If you have the super duper trick setup perhaps a slightly more conservative approach will eliminate the weirdness... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BritinUSA Posted May 18, 2009 Author Share Posted May 18, 2009 Cracked Grip? Steel grip, just checked anyway and no cracks You are still running roundnose projectiles right? Yep, Montana Gold same ones I have always used. Try a different brand and/or combination of mag spring & follower... Tried new springs with old followers and new springs with new followers. One stage they work, next stage they won't... From what I remember when I look down the ejection port at the nose-dive. It seems that the bullet it hitting the bottom of the barrel before the ramp starts. My thinking at the moment is to try a slightly longer OAL, but I only have 0.005" to play with before it starts hitting inside the mag. Not sure if such a small change would make any difference but it's the only thing that I have not changed yet. My usual OAL is 1.245" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SA Friday Posted May 18, 2009 Share Posted May 18, 2009 Cracked Grip? He runs a Tan or witness. can't remember which. Hope it's not a cracked grip. not many options on mag parts either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flexmoney Posted May 18, 2009 Share Posted May 18, 2009 Extractor, not letting the rim slip up. Too long OAL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BritinUSA Posted May 18, 2009 Author Share Posted May 18, 2009 Extractor, not letting the rim slip up. Hmmmmm, that's interesting. I know that a loose extractor causes the cases to flop out of the ejection port and a tight extractor throws the cases further. My cases are ending up about 20+ feet from where I am shooting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlamoShooter Posted May 18, 2009 Share Posted May 18, 2009 I remembering the "Lawn Mower Man" retard Billy Bob Thornton checks the fancy lawn-mower that wont start. looks in the fuel tank, looks at the spark plug pulls the fuel line off and blows through it. and starts up the lawn-mower. Yep I like taters. yep Take the slide off and put the barrel on the frame with out the slide , put in the loaded mag and look it over l Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nik Habicht Posted May 18, 2009 Share Posted May 18, 2009 It seems that the bullet it hitting the bottom of the barrel before the ramp starts. My thinking at the moment is to try a slightly longer OAL, but I only have 0.005" to play with before it starts hitting inside the mag. Not sure if such a small change would make any difference but it's the only thing that I have not changed yet. My usual OAL is 1.245" I had that problem once --- in a Glock. Radically shortening the OAL (1.135 to 1.100) fixed the issue and the blasters seem to like that length..... I did have to rework the load a little.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G-ManBart Posted May 18, 2009 Share Posted May 18, 2009 Ouch, that sort of stuff can just take all the fun out of the game. It's one thing when we mess up, but when it's gear that lets us down it just seems worse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flexmoney Posted May 18, 2009 Share Posted May 18, 2009 Extractor, not letting the rim slip up. Hmmmmm, that's interesting. I know that a loose extractor causes the cases to flop out of the ejection port and a tight extractor throws the cases further. My cases are ending up about 20+ feet from where I am shooting. If the extractor is a factor, it might not be an issue of tension...rather tuning the various edges near the hook...poor "clocking" due to the fit with the firing pin stop...carbon build up... With only 0.005 to play with in OAL...that is suspect too. Also, worn out brass...with rims that have gotten wider through repeated firings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BritinUSA Posted May 18, 2009 Author Share Posted May 18, 2009 If the extractor is a factor, it might not be an issue of tension...rather tuning the various edges near the hook...poor "clocking" due to the fit with the firing pin stop...carbon build up... It has an external extractor, it's blued (from the factory) and I am thinking I may need to just take the bluing off from the edges/hook so the case glides in, perhaps the bluing is not that uniform and may have some ridges or something. I get the problem with both old and new brass so it may be just a tad too snug for reliability. I've noticed .38 Super rims do tend to expand so I'll measure it up with both old and new brass and see if there is some binding/grinding action going on somewhere... Thanks for the tip. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shooterbenedetto Posted May 18, 2009 Share Posted May 18, 2009 Been there done that...since then, I got a CZ spo1 and slap on a scope on it as a back up gun. You'll figure it out... i remember going to Grauffel's sight for tips on how to tune the tans and just start from basic. Then, I also checked the rim of my used brass for sharp edges and chambered all ammo with the barrel. just my 2cents. Pretend its a friends gun to be worked on and tune it FRESH. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uscbigdawg Posted May 18, 2009 Share Posted May 18, 2009 Check the breechface angle too. I had a Caspian slide that wasn't cut true and the rounds would wedge between the face and the extractor and the jams were random as hell. FWIW, it's never a bad thing to stop spending match money and step back to diagnose the problem. Otherwise you're just getting more and more pissed. Been there too often. Rich Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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