hf219 Posted April 29, 2009 Share Posted April 29, 2009 In the not so distant future the availability of reloading components will loosen up. When it does I truly hope no one forgets about the retailers and websites that have condoned price gouging. Equally there have been many websites and retailers that haven't gone down that road, we should especially remember them too! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aristotle Posted April 29, 2009 Share Posted April 29, 2009 EXACTLY, what I've been thinking. Sad because I "used" to use some of them quite often. I know who I will consider going to first when doing another group order, and who to avoid all together. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Franksremote Posted April 29, 2009 Share Posted April 29, 2009 We've kept our prices inline with pre-Obama MSRP (we're one of the lowest in our area as is and still are) provided vendors didn't overcharge/increase our cost. I'd like to believe that folks will remember, but in reality, I think the public forgets as fast as the next event occurs. It does make me feel better that we're "doing the right thing" and I would think that karma would smile on us in the future for our efforts. I am truly disappointed in some of the manufacturers that have gone off the deep end, one who we supported heavily when they were nobodies are now turning their backs on us cause the "big boys" are stocking their products. I thought they were good people and can't begin to express how disappointed I am in their "new tune." My 2 cents, Frank Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A-shot Posted April 29, 2009 Share Posted April 29, 2009 It's the NWO Frank, it's gonna get worse before it gets better as they say. Money is grease, and "doing the right thing" typically leaves you left behind, karma aside. If the price floor has reached the roof, you need a new floor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hf219 Posted April 29, 2009 Author Share Posted April 29, 2009 We've kept our prices inline with pre-Obama MSRP (we're one of the lowest in our area as is and still are) provided vendors didn't overcharge/increase our cost. I'd like to believe that folks will remember, but in reality, I think the public forgets as fast as the next event occurs. It does make me feel better that we're "doing the right thing" and I would think that karma would smile on us in the future for our efforts.I am truly disappointed in some of the manufacturers that have gone off the deep end, one who we supported heavily when they were nobodies are now turning their backs on us cause the "big boys" are stocking their products. I thought they were good people and can't begin to express how disappointed I am in their "new tune." My 2 cents, Frank Frank, price increases by the manufacturer passed onto the consumers is unfortunate for both the retailer and the customer. In this context, its acceptable, unpleasant, but acceptable. Your spirit of not falling into the price gouging mentality is noticed and wont be forgotten. I believe in Karma, so do many others that play in our game. I applaud you and your professional business practices concerning this topic. Thanks Harry Foltz USPSA#A55808 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VegasOPM Posted April 29, 2009 Share Posted April 29, 2009 It is ironic how many price gouging opportunities that the shooting fraternity have been through over the course of the last year. Brass, powder, primers, AR's, GLOCKs, ammo, AR magazines- you name it. A lot of folks have made a lot of money preying on fear. A lot of other folks have sold at a lesser profit to protect other shooters and the sport they love. We owe it to those folks to keep them in business after the panic subsides. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hf219 Posted April 29, 2009 Author Share Posted April 29, 2009 It is ironic how many price gouging opportunities that the shooting fraternity have been through over the course of the last year. Brass, powder, primers, AR's, GLOCKs, ammo, AR magazines- you name it. A lot of folks have made a lot of money preying on fear. A lot of other folks have sold at a lesser profit to protect other shooters and the sport they love. We owe it to those folks to keep them in business after the panic subsides. I couldnt have said it better. I will add that I have recently seen a vendor at a large match try to Capitolize on the Lack of Availability. With this said, I think that its something that should possibley be monitored at large matches by the match director. This type of practice, I feel, promotes bringing disrepute into our sport. Its in all of our best interests not to accept this, condone it or endorse it. Its simple, either offer the products at a reasonable price or dont offer it for sale at the match. Better yet, please dont patronize our sport if thats the typical business practice your willing to conduct. Our sport does not condone it nor accept it. Thanks goes to the business's that have kept their integrity intact during these times. H! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevin c Posted April 30, 2009 Share Posted April 30, 2009 Remember also to take the time to tell the gougers why you don't buy from them anymore. We're with you, Frank. Kev Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cactustactical Posted April 30, 2009 Share Posted April 30, 2009 I am truly disappointed in some of the manufacturers that have gone off the deep end, one who we supported heavily when they were nobodies are now turning their backs on us cause the "big boys" are stocking their products. I thought they were good people and can't begin to express how disappointed I am in their "new tune."My 2 cents, Frank Frank, I am not sure which manufacturers you are talking about, but yes, we have our stories also. 1) The large AR-15 company who called us on the day after the election and told us that the price of stripped lowers previously ordered are now $20 higher. And did we want to approve that price increase as our order was ready to ship. 2) The jobber aftermarket parts manufacturer in the upper midwest that we signed on with as one of their first dealers and helped to make a marketable name. A new employee was hired to handle dealer relationships and during our first phone call with him told me personally that our business was not very important now since Brownells and Midway carry their stuff. Odd, a common complaint about this company is the poor customer service from this new employee's area of the company. And the employee who formerly handled dealer relationships is apparently willing to sit back and watch his hard work go down the drain because of this new employee. I would love to say more on this topic, but will hold back. Your words struck a chord with me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LChico Posted April 30, 2009 Share Posted April 30, 2009 We've kept our prices inline with pre-Obama MSRP (we're one of the lowest in our area as is and still are) provided vendors didn't overcharge/increase our cost. I'd like to believe that folks will remember, but in reality, I think the public forgets as fast as the next event occurs. It does make me feel better that we're "doing the right thing" and I would think that karma would smile on us in the future for our efforts.I am truly disappointed in some of the manufacturers that have gone off the deep end, one who we supported heavily when they were nobodies are now turning their backs on us cause the "big boys" are stocking their products. I thought they were good people and can't begin to express how disappointed I am in their "new tune." My 2 cents, Frank Frank, Please PM me with information about your business (contact number or website). I like to make sure my dollars go to businesses with integrity and values that match mine. I did not see the information in your profile. Linda Chico (L-2035) Columbia SC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
big_kahuna Posted April 30, 2009 Share Posted April 30, 2009 We've kept our prices inline with pre-Obama MSRP (we're one of the lowest in our area as is and still are) provided vendors didn't overcharge/increase our cost. I'd like to believe that folks will remember, but in reality, I think the public forgets as fast as the next event occurs. It does make me feel better that we're "doing the right thing" and I would think that karma would smile on us in the future for our efforts.I am truly disappointed in some of the manufacturers that have gone off the deep end, one who we supported heavily when they were nobodies are now turning their backs on us cause the "big boys" are stocking their products. I thought they were good people and can't begin to express how disappointed I am in their "new tune." My 2 cents, Frank Frank, Please PM me with information about your business (contact number or website). I like to make sure my dollars go to businesses with integrity and values that match mine. I did not see the information in your profile. Linda Chico (L-2035) Columbia SC Agree with Linda. Good on ya, Frank. I can't find your card, so please PM me your info also... I will be sure to put you are on my preferred vendor list. Kindest Regards, Caesar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Franksremote Posted April 30, 2009 Share Posted April 30, 2009 I am truly disappointed in some of the manufacturers that have gone off the deep end, one who we supported heavily when they were nobodies are now turning their backs on us cause the "big boys" are stocking their products. I thought they were good people and can't begin to express how disappointed I am in their "new tune."My 2 cents, Frank Frank, I am not sure which manufacturers you are talking about, but yes, we have our stories also. 1) The large AR-15 company who called us on the day after the election and told us that the price of stripped lowers previously ordered are now $20 higher. And did we want to approve that price increase as our order was ready to ship. 2) The jobber aftermarket parts manufacturer in the upper midwest that we signed on with as one of their first dealers and helped to make a marketable name. A new employee was hired to handle dealer relationships and during our first phone call with him told me personally that our business was not very important now since Brownells and Midway carry their stuff. Odd, a common complaint about this company is the poor customer service from this new employee's area of the company. And the employee who formerly handled dealer relationships is apparently willing to sit back and watch his hard work go down the drain because of this new employee. I would love to say more on this topic, but will hold back. Your words struck a chord with me. The stories are all the same. Company "Nobody" begs for your business and offers you the sky and then some to stock their product and when they've "made it" forget that you even exist. What can you do? I'm not sure why it's so hard to understand that customer service is first and foremost but repeat business is built on a mutual long lasting relationship, not a one-night stand. Geesh, I'm sounding like Dr. Phil lol. More of my 2 cents, change welcome. Frank Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3quartertime Posted April 30, 2009 Share Posted April 30, 2009 This actually breaks several rules... • Hate rants involving shooters, firearms, or shooting related manufacturers, such as but not limited to - IPSC, IDPA, USPSA, Colt, Brownell's, Dillon, or Match Staff - are NOT PERMITTED. Brian's Forums is also not the place to resolve customer service issues or disputes you may have with a manufacturer, dealer, gunsmith, or individual. The Hate forum is for rants only - please, no lengthy discussions or debates. Hate threads that turn into discussions or debates will be automatically locked without notice. For a couple. Also while we all appreciate shooter friendly business practices we have forum dealers that are paying to advertise. CLOSED. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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