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Why not IPSC in the USA?


Cy Soto

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I'm certain it has much to do with the rest of the world being so PC. God forbid people shoot at cardboard with "heads"... that and some connections to using a firearm as a weapon. Good for us I say.

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Actually, almost every country has its own Practical Shooting Association, and each is just the national organization that represents IPSC in that country. USPSA is just larger and a bit more independent that most. When matches are described offically as USPSA matches or IPSC matches, its just a matter of which rulebook, the base IPSC one or the USPSA version, is being followed.

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How come the United States is the only country that has its own Practical Shooting Association? Why are we not part of IPSC (like the rest of the world)?

We are part of IPSC. Last time I checked we are still an IPSC Region. There's about 40+ regions in the world, so not all countries have ipsc...as far as I know.

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without the USA, IPSC would be a bunch of little countries telling each other how great they are, much like the UN. Yes, a french man has won the last 3 world shoots, but without the USA presence they would have been hollow victories.

And the USA does not have as many shooters as the rest of IPSC, we have MORE.

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IN the old days, the US rulebook have few differences.

There was a fundamental divide when IPSC went PC with the headless target.

  1. We were assured both targets were separate but equal, and there was no intent to eliminate the original target.
  2. Boudrie predicted this would be the next step. IPSC defenders stated he was wrong.
  3. IPSC encouraged regions holding World Shoots to use ONLY the PC target.
  4. IPSC moved the PC target to "second" in the rulebook to make it easier for regions that wished to hide the heritage of our sport from readers of their copy of the book by simply removing one illustration
  5. IPSC removed the PC target from the book
  6. The IPSC GA voted to remove the non-PC target as an authorized target

As a semi-related act of PC, the World Shoot in Cebu was asked (not ordered) to remove their very nicely done stage diagrams since their presence on the web made it harder for some region's competitors to hide the nature of their sport from their overlords.

The needs of the US and non-US regions differ, and are walking different paths. The US region has not chosen to walk the path of political correctness, and is not interested in playing the game of "let's see if the anti-gunners will hate us just a little bit less if we water down our sport.

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without the USA, IPSC would be a bunch of little countries telling each other how great they are, much like the UN. Yes, a french man has won the last 3 world shoots, but without the USA presence they would have been hollow victories.

And the USA does not have as many shooters as the rest of IPSC, we have MORE.

Actually, the little french man has won the last 4 world shoots all the way back to 1999. And without the US presence the only competition he would have would be Saul Kirsch.

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We aren't having this conversation in the "Beginners" forum.

(and reading it...it doesn't look like we will be able to have that conversation anywhere on this forum at this time...read the rules on politics...we aren't going to go at each other here)

Cy...please start doing searches before you start new threads !

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