halogrinder Posted April 15, 2009 Share Posted April 15, 2009 (edited) welp, im new in this game and have a 550 that i purchased.... so im reloading 9mm first. i dont have a chrono, but would like to get one in the near future. im using once shot brass. wolf magnum small primers 4.8 of titegroup 1.137 OAL 115 grain precision delta's FMJ. now i have a nagging suspision that this is a WAY hot bullet. i loaded approx 100 to see how they do and man they snap! i shot some winchester white box and some remingtion UMC with my loads, and they dont feel NEAR as hot as these. so: did i screw up and have them loaded @ maximum? based on how they "feel" when shooting compared to factory loaded ammo they are shooting hot. do i need a chrono so i can figgure out how fast these ARE shooting? i have 5,000 to load, so i want to make sure i dont screw the pooch and load everything too hot. these will be used to puch paper with a SIG 225 p6, and some STEN MKIII's. thanks for the suggestions and help a head of time, this forum kicks butt! Edited April 15, 2009 by halogrinder Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steel1212 Posted April 15, 2009 Share Posted April 15, 2009 I probably wouldn't use magnum or rifle primers in minor loads. I also think your way over on your powder. It only takes about 4.0 grains at 1.150 OAL with a 124 JHP to make minor with a safe margin in my 5" barreled 1911/2011s. I would think 4.3 range would be fine for 115s. Look in a reloading book and what does it say about velocity and OAL? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gm iprod Posted April 15, 2009 Share Posted April 15, 2009 4.8gr is a max load. I found in a 5" gun it was well past minor. 4.3gr as suggested above is more like it. I think in my Tanfoglio Limited 4.3gr with a Zero 115gr JHP was at about 1125fps, can't recall OAL, but it was under 1.125" as shown in the Hodgdon manual. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sean Gaines Posted April 15, 2009 Share Posted April 15, 2009 do not need magnum primers. I was using 3.8 of tg under 124gr montana gold bullet, with my glock 34 ot make pf. To give you a rough idea. You could back off your load a little, best way to do is borrow someone's chrono, and check your speed.and check for pressure signs on your primers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buddy_fuentes Posted April 15, 2009 Share Posted April 15, 2009 Apparently you are new to reloading, but if you are not please don't be offended. You should get a reloading manual, a chronograph (when you can afford to buy one), and find someone that is experienced in reloading. Someone that can read pressure signs on your spent brass and give you sound advice. To punch paper you don't need the power of a tank killer. Most of the time a moderate load will be the most accurate, most enjoyable, and less stress on your pistol. The primers that you are using will boost your load a bit, but not too much. If you can trade them for small pistol, good. If not it ain't that big of a deal. Buddy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimmyZip Posted April 15, 2009 Share Posted April 15, 2009 Since you are using Titegroup, try here. Remember, start low, and go up from there. I use this data for the most part to work UP a load. The important word is Up as opposed to down. http://data.hodgdon.com/main_menu.asp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
halogrinder Posted April 16, 2009 Author Share Posted April 16, 2009 do not need magnum primers. I was using 3.8 of tg under 124gr montana gold bullet, with my glock 34 ot make pf. To give you a rough idea. You could back off your load a little, best way to do is borrow someone's chrono, and check your speed.and check for pressure signs on your primers the only reason im using magnum primers is because i couldnt find anything else in the mean time! i have some spent shells, including the WWB and remingtons i shot @ the same time and take pictures for you gents if you would like Apparently you are new to reloading, but if you are not please don't be offended. You should get a reloading manual, a chronograph (when you can afford to buy one), and find someone that is experienced in reloading. Someone that can read pressure signs on your spent brass and give you sound advice. To punch paper you don't need the power of a tank killer. Most of the time a moderate load will be the most accurate, most enjoyable, and less stress on your pistol. The primers that you are using will boost your load a bit, but not too much. If you can trade them for small pistol, good. If not it ain't that big of a deal. Buddy no offense taken, i have thick skin and appreciate constructive critisism. i am new to reloading yes. i have realized that punching paper doesnt need full power loads.... first hand! can i use these magnum primers for my (soon to be) 40/45/38spl/.357 loads instead? right now i only have a 9mm die setup, so i was going to reload whatever i have on hand (about 5K) then move on to the next caliber i want to reload. Since you are using Titegroup, try here. Remember, start low, and go up from there. I use this data for the most part to work UP a load. The important word is Up as opposed to down. http://data.hodgdon.com/main_menu.asp thank you for the link! appreciate it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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