1-4 scopes w/visible illumination in daylight

[stik]

I have read over serval topics on this and with alot of info. My goal is to get a new 1-4 optic for 3 gun w/illum reticle that is visble in daylight.

I have firsthand experience w/the following

Visible in daylight

Meopta K-dot

New Trijicon 30mm 1-4 German reticle

Not visible in daylight

Millet DMS

Burris xtr

Horus Vision Talon

I am looking at the nightforce but have also heard that it also washes out in daylight. I mainly just want one visible due to sometimes dark backgrounds on berms, etc. The 2 Millet DMS's I own now work fine but looking at others, I can tell a big difference in the optics quailty/clarity.

Does anyone know if Burris or Horus has "improved" their illumination to be more visible in day light and does anyone have any experience w/the nightforce w/circle-dot reticle in daylight or is the info I heard on it just heresay. Any other options I have left out? I looked over the US optics scopes but can't find anyone w/firsthand experience w/those.

If only Trijicon would put an ACOG style reticle in their new scope, my search would be over.

Thanks for any info you all may can provide.

Eric

[GIO]

I think you about covered it. Meopta seems to be the one everybody likes for daylight illumination.

[mike4045]

I can pick up my dots on my Burris XTR during daylight. I do keep fresh batteries in it, might make a little difference.

Mike

[DMAC]

I have the Meopta and like it. I do wish that there was other reticle options on this scope.

[HSMITH]

My only complaint with the Meopta is that it doesn't have a one minute dot, other than that I think it is outstanding.