mdstihl Posted April 12, 2009 Share Posted April 12, 2009 I've read a few articles on these sights. One brand is the Advantage, and the other is SureSight. They've gotten good reviews, (naturally ) but I'm wondering if anyone here has seen them, tried them, or has any opinions? I have to learn to see the sights I have before I go getting new ones, myself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boz1911 Posted April 12, 2009 Share Posted April 12, 2009 Check what other "good" shooters are using first. Conventional sights are the most popular. A lot of people use a rear sight that are open a little or a front sight that's narrow (my choice). Both of these setups are to allow some amount of light to show in the sight picture. I don't recall anyone using "triangle" shaped sights. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nik Habicht Posted April 12, 2009 Share Posted April 12, 2009 Mod Note: This really isn't a question that's suitable for Questions that Don't Fit Anywhere..... Hence, moved..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mdstihl Posted April 12, 2009 Author Share Posted April 12, 2009 Nik, sorry about that. I really wasn't sure exactly where it went. Boz: Yep, that was my thought too. I don't post much here but read tons, and it seems most guys like a good bit of light around the FS, and the standard post and notch, whether FO or not. The exact amount seems to vary, but a little thinner is definitely better. I'm still shooting the stock sights on my G19, haven't gotten around to either thinning down the front or filing out the rear a bit. I put a TFO from TruGlo on my wife's, and she really likes it. I shoot about the same either way. I've got a lot more work to do on proper grip and trigger control before I mess with anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe4d Posted April 12, 2009 Share Posted April 12, 2009 I chased it for several years but there really isnt a Holy Grail of sights. as long as the front sight is sorta visable against the back ground the only thing that will truly help your score is dry fire to the point where your index is so second nature your front sight is always "right there" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graham Smith Posted April 12, 2009 Share Posted April 12, 2009 I tried a set of XO Express sights (standard dot) on my G19 and really like them for "defensive" sights. But I tried them on a USPSA course of fire and find that lack of precision in the sight alignment, while faster, does not work so well at distance. Having not tried the "triangle" sights, I cannot say for sure, but I rather expect the same will be true. What I think the problem, for me, has to do with is the "open" nature of the sights. Shooting at anything past a certain distance requires much better sight alignment. With regular sights, if the post is not between the notch, you cannot see it. With the Express sights, you can always see the front sight quite clearly. As a result, I was prone to shooting before the dot was over the post. I expect that a lot of practice would eliminate that problem, but I'm an old dog and new tricks don't come that easy. As always, your mileage may vary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LSP972 Posted April 12, 2009 Share Posted April 12, 2009 But I tried them on a USPSA course of fire and find that lack of precision in the sight alignment, while faster, does not work so well at distance. What I think the problem, for me, has to do with is the "open" nature of the sights. Shooting at anything past a certain distance requires much better sight alignment. With regular sights, if the post is not between the notch, you cannot see it. With the Express sights, you can always see the front sight quite clearly. As a result, I was prone to shooting before the dot was over the post. I expect that a lot of practice would eliminate that problem, but I'm an old dog and new tricks don't come that easy. Reminds me of the Guttersnipe sight on the ASP. It was amazingly good/fast up close. For distance; forget it. And my eyes were good back then... Thanks, Graham, for putting into words what I suspected. As my vision steadily deteriorates, I've been wrestling with what to do about it. I have an XS Big Dot on my J frame; but there is a big difference between getting a hit on the silouhette, and keeping them in the A zone. The three-dot system seems to be the best answer... for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eric nielsen Posted April 12, 2009 Share Posted April 12, 2009 (edited) PM sent. Short answer: No. Edited April 12, 2009 by eric nielsen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zipper046 Posted April 12, 2009 Share Posted April 12, 2009 I've read a few articles on these sights. One brand is the Advantage, and the other is SureSight. They've gotten good reviews, (naturally ) but I'm wondering if anyone here has seen them, tried them, or has any opinions? I have to learn to see the sights I have before I go getting new ones, myself. local shooter at our club has a set on his Glock. I shot them...didn't like them. Too BIG and too busy for me. I like simple black or black rear & FO front. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shred Posted April 12, 2009 Share Posted April 12, 2009 In theory there's an advantage to them. In reality they don't get used by the good shooters, and they'll try anything if they think it's an advantage; witness the Ghost Ring craze of a few years back. I suspect it's because at under 10-15 yards, good shooters primary use of the sights is to call shots, not aim the gun since they're doing that off an index. Calling shots seems to be simpler with notch-and-post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike cyrwus Posted April 12, 2009 Share Posted April 12, 2009 regardless of the theory; these sights are flimsy and will snag if you carry them. The only really redeeming quality for these is that they are fairly high, and with the colored inserts they allow sight alignment when you have a big ol suppressor up there in front. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crabbys44 Posted April 21, 2009 Share Posted April 21, 2009 (edited) I've read a few articles on these sights. One brand is the Advantage, and the other is SureSight. They've gotten good reviews, (naturally ) but I'm wondering if anyone here has seen them, tried them, or has any opinions? I have to learn to see the sights I have before I go getting new ones, myself. I've had two students with these sights. IMHO Stay away from them. It is really hard to focus on the front sight as there really isn't a focal point. You put the top of the pyramid on the base and press the trigger. At its best, 7 meters or less, it is the equivalent of a flash sight picture; further downrange and the lack of a focus point really shows. The consensus among the rest of the instructors was that it was a "holistic" sight picture. You make the pyramid and place it in the target area. Your focus is kind of in the middle to accomodate the different shapes and the target dissapears the further away you get from it (10 meters or so, depending on the eyes) . After 4 days and about 1200 rounds, both guys are putting "regular" sights on their guns. FWIW Edited April 21, 2009 by Crabbys44 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RH45 Posted April 21, 2009 Share Posted April 21, 2009 We had a shooter bring his gun, with those sights on it, to the chrono stage at the area 5 match a few years ago and I really thought they sucked! I didn't make a note of the shooters name to see how he ended up shooting the match, but, I don't remember seeing him called up for a trophy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mdstihl Posted April 22, 2009 Author Share Posted April 22, 2009 Thanks everyone for your replies, you're mostly saying what I was thinking. I think it's one of those things that's good in theory, but in practise... meh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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