EricW Posted September 4, 2002 Share Posted September 4, 2002 Anybody have a pet load for .40 that fills a substantial portion of the case? I'd like to actually be able to clearly *see* the charge at the bottom of the case before I put the bullet in. Right now, the Titegroup is just a little dab waaay down at the bottom. Tough to see down there with the press up on a strong mount. Right now I'm open to anything: slow burning powders, Gucci powder from Europe, whatever. It all seems worth it after the near KB on Sunday. I figure this will have to be my "safety" system until I can upgrade to a 650 or a 1050 with a powder check station. Thanks! E Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ErikW Posted September 4, 2002 Share Posted September 4, 2002 Clays is bulky and light in color. My 180 gr load fills the case about two-thirds. 3N37 is fairly visible and good with 200 gr bullets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tree Rat Posted September 4, 2002 Share Posted September 4, 2002 What are you loading for? 155/125PF loads, I'd go with 3.6 - 4.0 of Clays. 180/165PF loads, I'd go with 5.5 - 6.0 of WST. 155 and 165 Hi-performance loads, I'd go with 7.4 -7.8 and 6.7 -7.5 of Power pistol respectively. Work up any load slowly.....your mileage may vary. TR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EricW Posted September 4, 2002 Author Share Posted September 4, 2002 I just want to load for Major PF. Thanks for the input! E Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick Sweeney Posted September 4, 2002 Share Posted September 4, 2002 Be careful with that approach. If the case is filled too much, and your press operation is jerky, you'll be spilling enough powder to make the press hard to operate after a few hundred rounds. Stopping every 200 rounds to strip and clean the press sucks. Perhaps a mirror and light setup, to get a good view into the case? (Edited by Patrick Sweeney at 8:06 am on Sep. 4, 2002) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A33435 Posted September 4, 2002 Share Posted September 4, 2002 I am shooting a G35 in standarddivision. Reloading on a Dillon SD, for visual checking of the powder charge i placed a spotlight next to the press. Rounds : - once fired Winchester brass - Federal SP200mag. primer - 6.5 grain VV3N37 or 5.5 VV340 - bullet 180 grains FPRN Frontier (actualy 177 grains) - O.A.L. between 28.6 - 28.7 mm Both powdercharge produce in my gun PF 178 Case is well enough filled to notice double or no charges Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EricW Posted September 4, 2002 Author Share Posted September 4, 2002 Pat, I'm hip to the light & mirror. I've been fooling with a Sears, mechanics one wth limited success. I just want a double charge to be visibly obvious until I can upgrade to a better press. E Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Posted September 4, 2002 Share Posted September 4, 2002 look at IMR's website. They have some 'bulky' powders. http://www.imrpowder.com/handgun/40sw-3.html 7.2 grains of 800-X is alot. I know 800-X is about the size of corn flakes and burns pretty slow. It may leave a big mess after a few shots. It does in my 12 GA OU! I would go with 700-X myself. I'm actually going to try that for my 135gr production loads. (Edited by Chris at 12:33 pm on Sep. 4, 2002) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skywalker Posted September 5, 2002 Share Posted September 5, 2002 ErikW, try with Nitrokemia Rex 3 (the green can) powder. It's a fairly slow burning powder, and it is quite bulky too. It's not as clean as Vihtavuori, but it's cheap (at least here in Italy). My training load is the following: - Fiocchi Brass - CCI 500 small pistol primers - 4.8 grs Rex 3 powder - 200 grs lead FP-BB bullet - 1.200" O.A.L. - 175 P.F. this should give you the visual help you're looking for. For more info on reloading with Rex 3 powder, visit my web site (www.teamoffire.it), in the english section, reloading page, Infinity file. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon Merricks Posted September 5, 2002 Share Posted September 5, 2002 EricW, I have just started using 5.8 of Universal at 1.200" around 939 fps. light color and easy to see. I do have to work the press slower than I did with TG. Cuz what Pat said. (Edited by Jon Merricks at 12:54 pm on Sep. 5, 2002) (Edited by Jon Merricks at 4:14 pm on Sep. 5, 2002) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EricW Posted September 5, 2002 Author Share Posted September 5, 2002 Jon, By "Universal" we mean "Universal Clays" right? If so, I've got an 8 lb can just itching to be used. Thanks for the help, everybody! This is such a great forum. E Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skeeter Posted September 5, 2002 Share Posted September 5, 2002 a second vote for univresal clays. i use 4.6 grains loaded to 1.125 with a 180 for my glock it almost over fills the case with a double charge and wont set a bullet. clean and consitant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon Merricks Posted September 5, 2002 Share Posted September 5, 2002 Yep thats right. I'm going back to edit my post. It's 5.8 @ 1.200 to make 170. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBeazlie Posted September 8, 2002 Share Posted September 8, 2002 FWIW just finished shooting Area 8 Race Gun Match shooting limited with a P 16 40. Used 5.1 gr U. Clays under a Precicion Bullett 185 gr TC. loaded 1.190. Little smoke, easy to see a double charge, soft recoil. Made PF 175. Only stage I did well in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon Merricks Posted September 9, 2002 Share Posted September 9, 2002 Maybe I shoud try a diffrent chrono. At 5.8 gr out of my P16 I'm getting around 941 fps. I did measure the OAL and some how that batch was at 1.230. TBeazlie would your bullets make that much of a difference . I'm shooting MG 180gr JHP's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skeeter Posted September 9, 2002 Share Posted September 9, 2002 jon your loads seem right with what other guys here seem to get. my loads are out of a glock 24 with the six inch barrel i usally get what i need at around the starting loads some times under them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paranoid Posted September 10, 2002 Share Posted September 10, 2002 my load for universal was 5.0 grains @1.135 with a 180 grn plated berrys, would chrono at 950-975 fps out of a 5 inch bbl. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBeazlie Posted September 12, 2002 Share Posted September 12, 2002 Jon, I confess the bulletts sat in my truck for about three hours before the match ( getting warmed up) and the chrono was the second stage i shot so likely still warm. The precision bulletts are lead with a moly coating of some sort and may move along a little faster down the barrel than jacketed ones. I was alittle worried before the match and thought that I should crank up the charge a coulpe of tenths but had alredy made up 500 of them so decided what the hell if I made minor I would just shot all A aone hits Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gm iprod Posted September 12, 2002 Share Posted September 12, 2002 And go really, really, really fast. I use TG or Clays. A double charge of either is really going to fill the case. Even when I make light loads for the lady of the house. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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