G-ManBart Posted January 11, 2009 Share Posted January 11, 2009 Since it's the start of a new year I'm wondering who's shooting what in Open. I've left out some choices like 9x25 and .357 Sig as they're so unusual as to be irrelevant (no offense intended). This isn't to start a debate about which is better, just to claim what you are CURRENTLY shooting. Not what you plan on or hope to...what the gun(s) in the safe are currently chambered in. If you plan on making a switch, that would be a great post to add details. Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JFlowers Posted January 11, 2009 Share Posted January 11, 2009 G-Man, We had four Open shooters yesterday. Two 38SC STIs, a 38SC Para, and an uncompensated 45 Single Stack with a small diameter tube scope. The 45 was slow, but deadly accurate! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DanM Posted January 11, 2009 Share Posted January 11, 2009 With my new to me Caspian, I'm currently shooting .38 Super. I'm going to try some .38 Super Comp brass next week and see how that works. I'm still trying to decide if I want to make the switch to 9MM Major. My current messing around load is 9grns of 3N38, WSRP, at 1.250 OAL. 5" Gun, no popple holes and 7 port Comp One thing I've noticed coming from production with Glocks and XDs is that open is expensive Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tzygä Posted January 11, 2009 Share Posted January 11, 2009 I voted 9x19 and I mean Major 9. If I have 3 major nines and one 38 supercomp do I still have one vote? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G-ManBart Posted January 11, 2009 Author Share Posted January 11, 2009 (edited) an uncompensated 45 Single Stack with a small diameter tube scope. The 45 was slow, but deadly accurate! Now that guy/gal is a stud! 12 votes in 12 minutes...wow! Edited January 11, 2009 by G-ManBart Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maineshootah Posted January 11, 2009 Share Posted January 11, 2009 This isn't to start a debate about which is better, just to claim what you are CURRENTLY shooting. See the avatar.... Major 9. (3 of us crazy Maine'ahs shooting them now..) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tzygä Posted January 11, 2009 Share Posted January 11, 2009 12 votes in 12 minutes...wow! Well, this is excelent topic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XD Niner Posted January 11, 2009 Share Posted January 11, 2009 .38 Super for me. By the time I lose a casing at a match I've typically reloaded it 6 to 8 times. That means the residual value is in the 2¢ to 3¢ range. Considering the great deals I got on all three of my used .38 Open guns, how much easier it is to reload the slightly longer casings and the really minimal brass costs I am more than happy with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
james57 Posted January 11, 2009 Share Posted January 11, 2009 I shoot 2-38 Supers (115 Zeros and 8.9 True Blue)and constantly fight the urge to switch to 9 major. As someone above pointed out Open is expensive, but the Super is easier to load and prepare equipment for. Two local shooters have broken three slides within a year and dropped out of the game. Maybe I should focus on shooting and not changing equipment when it works? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glockcomma Posted January 11, 2009 Share Posted January 11, 2009 I have three open guns, all are major 9. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boz1911 Posted January 11, 2009 Share Posted January 11, 2009 Voted 9x19 but my 2nd gun is temporarily 38sc. As soon as I shoot this last bit of ammo, it goes back for caliber change. I love my 9 !! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blue edge Posted January 12, 2009 Share Posted January 12, 2009 Remimber when they all said MAJOR 9 will not work!!!! HA!HA!HA!HAH!AHA!HAH!AH!AH!A!HH!HAHA!H!HAHA! I love my major 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G-ManBart Posted January 12, 2009 Author Share Posted January 12, 2009 Remimber when they all said MAJOR 9 will not work!!!!HA!HA!HA!HAH!AHA!HAH!AH!AH!A!HH!HAHA!H!HAHA! I love my major 9 Sure they'll work if they're set up by someone who knows what they're doing. Two or three smiths that make good ones have told me it's not a problem at all, but it does take them more time to build an equally reliable gun in 9mm compared with Super. Nothing wrong with that really, just like a .40 SS gun takes a little more to make reliable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cferree Posted January 12, 2009 Share Posted January 12, 2009 My 9 major is in an old small frame Witness that was originally a 9x21. I had to work thru some mag issues, but other than that its running fine. (I shot a Springfield Custon Shot P9 in 9x21 in the late 90's, should have never sold it) Charles A20840 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blue edge Posted January 12, 2009 Share Posted January 12, 2009 Remimber when they all said MAJOR 9 will not work!!!!HA!HA!HA!HAH!AHA!HAH!AH!AH!A!HH!HAHA!H!HAHA! I love my major 9 Sure they'll work if they're set up by someone who knows what they're doing. Two or three smiths that make good ones have told me it's not a problem at all, but it does take them more time to build an equally reliable gun in 9mm compared with Super. Nothing wrong with that really, just like a .40 SS gun takes a little more to make reliable. I just looked major 9 53.66% The extra work may be worth it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kgunz11 Posted January 12, 2009 Share Posted January 12, 2009 When I decided to buy my wife an Open gun, I bought her a .38SC. I wanted her to have a gun that would run without turning me into a mag tuning, extractor tuning, pistol smithing freak. It's tried and true for years now. Yeah, there are 9 Major open guns that are running, but for the cost of an STI Trubor? I like the fact that I can take a mag tube, throw Bolen springs and followers and a Dawson SNL pad on there and she is running. If I put her in a 1/2 working 9mm she'd lose interest real fast. If I spent the money on a JL Hardy or Bedell gun she'd divorce me. I don't want either of those to happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G-ManBart Posted January 12, 2009 Author Share Posted January 12, 2009 Remimber when they all said MAJOR 9 will not work!!!!HA!HA!HA!HAH!AHA!HAH!AH!AH!A!HH!HAHA!H!HAHA! I love my major 9 Sure they'll work if they're set up by someone who knows what they're doing. Two or three smiths that make good ones have told me it's not a problem at all, but it does take them more time to build an equally reliable gun in 9mm compared with Super. Nothing wrong with that really, just like a .40 SS gun takes a little more to make reliable. I just looked major 9 53.66% The extra work may be worth it I think it's a bit early to come to any conclusions. Further, I'd submit that the folks here represent a pretty small cross-section of USPSA shooters and they're likely to be much more up-to-date on what can and can't be done. So, we're not going to get a true answer. The most realistic results will come when USPSA publishes their data from the Nationals. We're not going to turn this into "which is better". They all have their place for different reasons. I'll just stick with what my gunsmith recommends and be happy with my choice Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XRe Posted January 12, 2009 Share Posted January 12, 2009 1 - Super and Supercomp are, essentially, the same. So... add them... 2 - take a look at what's actually winning, in practice.... 3 - shoot what works for you... doesn't matter what it is... follow no religion, and don't fool yourself about it, either way... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neomet Posted January 12, 2009 Share Posted January 12, 2009 SC. i love my 3N38. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flatland Shooter Posted January 12, 2009 Share Posted January 12, 2009 Remimber when they all said MAJOR 9 will not work!!!!HA!HA!HA!HAH!AHA!HAH!AH!AH!A!HH!HAHA!H!HAHA! I love my major 9 Sure they'll work if they're set up by someone who knows what they're doing. Two or three smiths that make good ones have told me it's not a problem at all, but it does take them more time to build an equally reliable gun in 9mm compared with Super. Nothing wrong with that really, just like a .40 SS gun takes a little more to make reliable. I've been shooting Major 9 since last February when I picked up a lightly used Hardy full size. In over 10K rounds I've had exactly 2 FTF and both were ammo problems. Can't get more reliable than that! Super and Supercomp essentially the same. Ditto for 9x19 and 9x21. Load'em the same (at least I do). Bill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SLM Posted January 12, 2009 Share Posted January 12, 2009 I tried to vote 9x19 three times but it wouldn't let me, hahaha! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G-ManBart Posted January 12, 2009 Author Share Posted January 12, 2009 I've been shooting Major 9 since last February when I picked up a lightly used Hardy full size. In over 10K rounds I've had exactly 2 FTF and both were ammo problems. Can't get more reliable than that! Hardy is definitely one of the guys that knows how to make a 9mm Open gun run....if it didn't I'd be worried. R, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SharonAnne9x23 Posted January 12, 2009 Share Posted January 12, 2009 what is meant by "Major 9"? Is it a 9X19 loaded to 1.169" and running WAY over SAAMI spec? Is it a 9X19 case loaded to longer than 1.169"? Back in the late 1980s I had a buddy who shot what I called a Super 9. It was a 9X19 case with a 160gr RN bullet loaded to 1.24" just like many .38 Supers. I don't know if Paul Miller invented it but he did design the 160gr RN bullet with the lube groove right down near the base of the bullet allowing the bullet to be seated long. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XRe Posted January 12, 2009 Share Posted January 12, 2009 Major 9 is typically any major PF cartridge loaded into a 9x19 case, regardless of OAL... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sfinney Posted January 12, 2009 Share Posted January 12, 2009 what is meant by "Major 9"? Is it a 9X19 loaded to 1.169" and running WAY over SAAMI spec? Is it a 9X19 case loaded to longer than 1.169"? Back in the late 1980s I had a buddy who shot what I called a Super 9. It was a 9X19 case with a 160gr RN bullet loaded to 1.24" just like many .38 Supers. I don't know if Paul Miller invented it but he did design the 160gr RN bullet with the lube groove right down near the base of the bullet allowing the bullet to be seated long. Major 9 = 9x19 that exceeds 165 PF. Length .vs SAAMI has nothing to do with it, specifically.... although most need to load longer than spec to accomplish it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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