Titanium Eagle Posted December 3, 2008 Share Posted December 3, 2008 Hello all, I am waiting on my Kimber Gold Trophy Match II(45ACP). I also ordered a 22lr conversion kit for it. Is it a good idea to practice with a different caliber?? I am thinking that the shot experience is totally different. Are any of you doing this?? Thanks Pete Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yankee Dog Posted December 3, 2008 Share Posted December 3, 2008 all trigger time is good. A 22 is better than dry firing; not as good as full PF loads. But a heck of a lot cheaper and loads of fun as well. yankee Dog Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buddy_fuentes Posted December 3, 2008 Share Posted December 3, 2008 Take a look at some of the shooters that come from Japan...they only shoot air-soft until they come here (USA). They kick some tush in the matches. It must be teaching them hand eye coordination, trigger control, and transitions. I would think a .22 would be even better than air-soft. Buddy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ofcrfs242 Posted December 3, 2008 Share Posted December 3, 2008 I love my 22 conversion and shoot it regularly. One thing that I do both before and after shooting the conversion is shoot at least 25 fp loads. The experience is definately different but like said it is time behind the trigger. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GmanCdp Posted December 3, 2008 Share Posted December 3, 2008 i've got a Kimber 22 1911 and a couple of Marvel top ends..i used them several times this year a week before a match and they seemed to help me quit a bit..would run 1000 to 1500...but i would always finish up shooting atleast 25 to 30 45's to get back to feeling the real recoil... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supermoto Posted December 3, 2008 Share Posted December 3, 2008 (edited) Most of this sport has little to do with shooting... The .22 is a great way to practice movement drills Edited December 3, 2008 by Supermoto Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyle O Posted December 3, 2008 Share Posted December 3, 2008 Just got my tactical solutions top end in the mail yesterday. I can't wait for the extra trigger time! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shoot Posted December 3, 2008 Share Posted December 3, 2008 22 conversion lets you work on things until it's automatic. It helps especially if you have exactly the same sights and use the same holster and grip tape etc. I built an airsoft open gun and have an airsoft glock 17. Both have same sights and everything as the real deal. I use a cerner glock conversion with Heinie .105" x .225 and slant pro rear same as my real glock. Also with enough mags to do steel competition on occasion. I also use a marvel conversion with compensator that fits on my STI open gun thus same cmore etc ( it shoots slightly high but not bad ... ie about same zero out to 25 yards). It works right into the plan but has limitations so it augments your live fire with your real ammo and does not replace it. I love to shoot so getting it out of my system and trying to end on a high note can easily cost me 600 rounds in a standard live fire practice day. Plus my son shoots with me so with conversion it let's you have a plan that includes a smörgåsbord of cheap 22lr fun. Dry fire is work and the reward is shooting A's and calling shots with airsoft. That way you can shoot every day... ie strong and weak hand... anything. 22 conversion let's me drill till I can quit on a high note. That's very hard for me as I'm not a fast learner and trying to unlearn is very hard for me. Bad habits. ugh At end for me I try to do recoil drills with real ammo. 22 conversion turns a 300 dollars worth of ammo practice into a very gratifying shoot to you drop work out. Airsoft let's you call shots, index run and gun every day if you want. Both will hurt your shooting if that's all you do but with 22lr and or airsoft there are a lot good things to be learned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M.E.Anglin Posted December 3, 2008 Share Posted December 3, 2008 I got a Kimber .22 upper for my wife... she went from maybe hitting a target, to getting head shots............... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Griffin Posted December 3, 2008 Share Posted December 3, 2008 Most of this sport has little to do with shooting... The .22 is a great way to practice movement drills Exactly. Unless you are working specifically on recoil control, then a .22 will teach you everything else, and cheaply. I've made real progress in footwork by testing various strategies with a .22. It keeps you honest, can reach 25 yards and still be accurate, and works the timer. I also use airsoft for similar drills in the basement, but the horrible accuracy makes it second-best. H. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Titanium Eagle Posted December 4, 2008 Author Share Posted December 4, 2008 (edited) Well The Kimber and the 22kit came in today. I was only able to fire 100 rounds with the 45. and did not switch to the 22. I am really pleased with this gun. It is noticably better than my Berretta 92f. The accuracy improvement is significant.. I have been home for an hour and feel like i need to go back t o the range . AHHHHHHHHHHHHHH Edited December 4, 2008 by Titanium Eagle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRev1911 Posted December 4, 2008 Share Posted December 4, 2008 I shoot an advantage arms .22 conversion on my glock 34. You can't beat it for getting lots of trigger time and not have to spend alot on ammo. That low cost enables me practice at the range a couple of times per week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graham Smith Posted December 4, 2008 Share Posted December 4, 2008 The thing I find it most useful for is practicing point shooting, where I'm working at around 25' and want to drill on rapid target transitions. I also find it useful for practicing strong hand / weak hand drills. It helps me work out problems and try different things. I should add that after practicing with my .22 conversion, I always finish with my real gun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Litig8r15 Posted December 4, 2008 Share Posted December 4, 2008 I agree with the comments about working on trigger control and one handed shooting. You can really concentrate on correcting flaws like jerking the trigger. Eric Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Griffin Posted December 5, 2008 Share Posted December 5, 2008 Oh heck yes, I forgot about that. Strong hand/weak hand shooting, I always feel like I'm wasting ammo practicing it. (I know I'm not, but it just feels that way.) The low cost of .22 means it doesn't hurt as much to goofily throw rounds downrange. H. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bradthegunmaniac Posted December 5, 2008 Share Posted December 5, 2008 I have a kimber 22 conversion too but having a hard time finding what cheap ammo will run in this gun Brad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duane Thomas Posted December 5, 2008 Share Posted December 5, 2008 Because of the weight of the full-size 1911 slide, even though it's made mostly of aluminum, the Kimber .22s won't run with any sort of Hyper Velocity ammo, they require Standard/High Velocity stuff. I realize that sounds counter-intuitive, you'd expect "Hyper Velocity" rounds to generate more recoil to operate the action. But in reality, the way they get the extra velocity in .22 LR ammo is to drop bullet weight - typically from 40 to 31 grains - so Hyper Velocity ammo actually generates less recoil energy than Standard/High Velocity. Even then, every .22 auto pistol is a law unto itself as to the ammo with which it will and won't work. Among inexpensive ammo types in the Kimber .22s I've fired, I've had great luck with CCI Mini-Mags. YMMV. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Litig8r15 Posted December 5, 2008 Share Posted December 5, 2008 I use my 22 conversion with a Wilson lower. I actually have found a bit of the opposite that the higher velocity/higher priced stuff works better than the Mini-Mags. So, I guess that proves your point about each being a law unto itself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bradthegunmaniac Posted December 6, 2008 Share Posted December 6, 2008 Mine also seems to like the fast stuff. But I want the cheap stuff or I can just shoot the 9. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Litig8r15 Posted December 6, 2008 Share Posted December 6, 2008 Yes it is not quite as economical but at 6 or 7 bucks for 100 it is still quite a bit cheaper than 100 rounds of 9. Plus, I think the ability to isolate on the fundamentals is worth it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LPatterson Posted December 6, 2008 Share Posted December 6, 2008 Mine also seems to like the fast stuff. But I want the cheap stuff or I can just shoot the 9. Depends on whether you save the brass which would be hard to find with our snow. It'll be 22's for the next 3-4 months. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Griffin Posted December 6, 2008 Share Posted December 6, 2008 Try the Remington Golden Bullet bulk pack, it goes about $16 at Walmart for 550 rounds. That's what Advantage recommends along with CCI, and I've had a good experience with a few thousand. H. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuck in C Posted December 6, 2008 Share Posted December 6, 2008 I just got my AA conversion for my Glock, and took it to Bullseye pistol practice to try it out. It worked great, but I could barely hit the paper with the one-handed Bullseye style. (I do fine at Bullseye with my Model 41 target pistol). I gave it to friend and he centered a 2-3" group with it. I obviously have trigger control issues with the Glock trigger even though I have been shooting one for >10 years. So I can already see this thing might be useful as a practice tool. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duane Thomas Posted December 6, 2008 Share Posted December 6, 2008 So, I guess that proves your point about each being a law unto itself. Yep! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben Stoeger Posted December 6, 2008 Share Posted December 6, 2008 I wrote something for my website about this topic awhile back. HERE I really like .22 for practice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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