Trigger Job?

[vaquero]

I have a Witness Match, Really like it but was thinking about getting a trigger job done. Not very often but every now and then the trigger don't reset like it should. Was just wondering if anybody here had sent thier's away to have it worked on and who was good. I shoot it for esp in Idpa so I know I can't get Henning's extended firing pin since that would disable the trigger block safety. But a little lighter trigger would be nice.

Thank

Tom

[satx40]

I have a match and have the same problem. I took it to the local gunsmith that has worked on a lot of CZ's. He took it out and test fired about 100 rounds through it and said that the problem never showed up. His suggestion was that I was not letting the trigger off far enough to reset. That did not work because I had the same problem yesterday at an IDPA match. It only happened once but it is enough to be aggravating.

The trigger on my Match is set at about 2.5#. The gun shoots like a dream.

If you find anyone that can solve this problem let me know.

Art

[CHA-LEE]

Sounds like trigger freeze to me. This happens when you grip the pistol to hard with your strong hand and when you shoot fast your trigger finger "Locks Up" and won't allow the trigger to move back far enough to reset. You can get a trigger job to minimize the reset distance but that is just a band aid for the real problem of you gripping the pistol too hard. The easiest way to test this out is if you take a spring loaded hand exerciser and fully compress it with all of the fingers on your strong hand except your trigger finger. Then as it is fully compressed move your trigger finger in and out like you would be pulling the trigger. If you can't move your trigger finger freely or have a limited range of movement that shows you the maximum grip pressure you should be applying. You want a strong hand grip that is strong enough to manage the recoil of the pistol but still allow you to easily modulate your trigger finger. If the grip pressure that allows free trigger finger movement isn't enough to manage the recoil of the pistol then its time to start working out your hands to build up the forearm strength until you can.

I have been using a couple of different hand and wrist exercises to build up my grip strength. My grip power is about double of what it was when I started and it really shows in my shooting. I don't even have to think about gripping the pistol hard when I shoot now. I just point and shoot and the muzzle flip is non existent. I also had trigger freeze issues before doing my hand and wrist exercises. Building up the base strength in my hands and forearms really helps with shooting more consistently and faster.

Sure you could get a trigger job done for a couple hundred bucks to minimize the trigger freeze. But a $5 hand exerciser and some dedication will result in a lot better performance overall. I do my hand and wrist exercises as I drive to and from work every day so I don’t even have to dedicate any “Special” time to doing it. What else are you going to do while driving to work other than vegetate or talk on the phone anyway?

[Dave Gundry]

Check with Rich at Canyon Creek about tuning the stock parts. He's in Illinois.

EAA's can have reset issues if the trigger pretravel screw is set too tight. Make sure there is a bit of slop before you feel the trigger bar engage the sear.

[vaquero]

Thanks for the info. I don't think it is trigger freeze I have pretty strong hands I work with sheet metal and snips all day long, plus I use a gripmaster for my hands. this is the only gun that does it, I have had it do it bad enough a couple times where i actually had to tap the side of the gun to get the trigger to reset. But until it did that I thought it was just me not letting it reset also. So I thought there might be a burr in there somewhere. It seems like it is getting better with use though its got about 3000 rounds thru it now.

Thanks for the info on canyon creek also. I had seen them advertise here and wondered if any one had used them.

Tom

[eerw]

usually if the trigger is not resetting..the trigger bar is not coming forward far enough to pick up the sear..this can happen for a couple of reasons.

pretravel adjustment, some obstruction or friction that obstructs movement of the trigger, something obstructing the sear/trigger bar

[LeoHallak]

usually if the trigger is not resetting..the trigger bar is not coming forward far enough to pick up the sear..this can happen for a couple of reasons.

pretravel adjustment, some obstruction or friction that obstructs movement of the trigger, something obstructing the sear/trigger bar

dont forget weak springs, I had a problem with weak sear spring. but that was on a gun with a lot of rounds through it.

most of the stock setups can be made pretty nice on all these pistols with a little work.. 13lb hammer spring, clean up the sear and polish some parts.. I usually do a bill drill or two and that tells me if i am trigger freezing

leo