badchad Posted November 14, 2008 Share Posted November 14, 2008 I have a Burris 1-4 XTR and I was contemplating a throw lever. They look like they would really speed up the change from 1 to 4 power on a stage when needed, but they also look like they would snag on all kinds of things. Are the top shooters using them and do the pros outweigh the cons? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uscbigdawg Posted November 14, 2008 Share Posted November 14, 2008 They have their value. Definitely worth trying and see how you like them. Rich Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ERIC Posted November 14, 2008 Share Posted November 14, 2008 I made my own and like it a lot. I've been using it since March of this year and haven't had it snag onto anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mpeltier Posted November 14, 2008 Share Posted November 14, 2008 On the Burris 1-4 the whole ocular turns as opposed to just the small ring as do most other variables. I have taken advantage of that by applying grip tape to the whole smooth surface of the ocular (2" wide by an approprite length to wrap around it). Gives a huge non-slip gripping surface that is non snag also. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charles Bond Posted November 14, 2008 Share Posted November 14, 2008 I have a Burris 1-4 XTR and I was contemplating a throw lever. They look like they would really speed up the change from 1 to 4 power on a stage when needed, but they also look like they would snag on all kinds of things. Are the top shooters using them and do the pros outweigh the cons? Jessie Abbot was using one last year and I can see a huge advantage. IMO you are at no more risk snagging the throw lever than you would be snagging your holster on a doorway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Religious Shooter Posted November 14, 2008 Share Posted November 14, 2008 If you like changing the power on the fly I think it's a must. But I also think that continually changing power is a good way to accelerate the demise of your scope. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
busyhawk Posted November 14, 2008 Share Posted November 14, 2008 I love the throw on my Meopta...I believe it is a must and I have yet to have a snag (knock on wood). Almost all levers have the extra room to trim if you believe you may have a problem. The ring on the Meopta is a little stiff so it would take what seems an hour to switch from one side to the other of power. Hell, I already spent all the money for the rest of the gear so may as well drink "all" of the koolaid! Got mine from RandRRacingonline and love it... Hope this helps, Busyhawk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TonyH Posted November 14, 2008 Share Posted November 14, 2008 If you like changing the power on the fly I think it's a must. Yes, they are are must for variable power scopes. They give added leverage & easier access to the adjustment, (FAST). But I also think that continually changing power is a good way to accelerate the demise of your scope. /quote] What???? If that"s the case all my scopes must be worn out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TonyH Posted November 14, 2008 Share Posted November 14, 2008 I believe LaRue Tactical is making a nice throw lever now. SGDM (Greg Coker) can probably comfirm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-JQ- Posted November 14, 2008 Share Posted November 14, 2008 So is board member Chris Conley! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kurtm Posted November 14, 2008 Share Posted November 14, 2008 R&R Racing makes a GREAT throw lever, clamps on and is just the right size. Ceck it out! KurtM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D.Hayden Posted November 14, 2008 Share Posted November 14, 2008 Anyone know if there's a 'throw lever' available for an IOR anywhere? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Conley Posted November 14, 2008 Share Posted November 14, 2008 (edited) Anyone know if there's a 'throw lever' available for an IOR anywhere? Been down that road before and it's just not possible right now. The IOR has a 35mm tube with a Larue mount there is just not enough clearence between the bottom of the adjustment ring and the top of the flattop on the rifle. Plus the adjustment ring is tapered on both side and there is nothing really for grab onto. It want's to walk off either side. That scope will be a tuff nut to crack. Chris C. Edited November 14, 2008 by Chris Conley Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Religious Shooter Posted November 15, 2008 Share Posted November 15, 2008 What???? If that"s the case all my scopes must be worn out. If you use the throw lever the power ring will be moving at a much faster rate than without it. Faster=increased wear. When turning how many of us will stop on the dime? And how many of us will just smack against the "stop" and have all that increased torque (that the lever affords to the user) applied to the scope and mount? In addition the shooter will also most likely also change the power more often because it has become easy to do and it becomes a thing to practice. Like all mechanical things... the more you use it... the harder you use it... the faster it wears. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShooterSteve Posted November 15, 2008 Share Posted November 15, 2008 I was surprised at the A6 to see Benny Hill with grip tape on his Burris. If it works for Benny, I'm sure it will work for me. Might be a nickel or two cheaper also. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charles Bond Posted November 15, 2008 Share Posted November 15, 2008 Anyone know if there's a 'throw lever' available for an IOR anywhere? Been down that road before and it's just not possible right now. The IOR has a 35mm tube with a Larue mount there is just not enough clearence between the bottom of the adjustment ring and the top of the flattop on the rifle. Plus the adjustment ring is tapered on both side and there is nothing really for grab onto. It want's to walk off either side. That scope will be a tuff nut to crack. Chris C. Could you not modify one of those miracle strap wrenches (as seen on TV) to do it? I have a photo of a guy in the sandpit who did something like this using one of those. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Conley Posted November 15, 2008 Share Posted November 15, 2008 (edited) Anyone know if there's a 'throw lever' available for an IOR anywhere? Been down that road before and it's just not possible right now. The IOR has a 35mm tube with a Larue mount there is just not enough clearence between the bottom of the adjustment ring and the top of the flattop on the rifle. Plus the adjustment ring is tapered on both side and there is nothing really for grab onto. It want's to walk off either side. That scope will be a tuff nut to crack. Chris C. Could you not modify one of those miracle strap wrenches (as seen on TV) to do it? I have a photo of a guy in the sandpit who did something like this using one of those. Umm... We have been down that road also. They just don't hold up and lose tension during a fight. One we tested out in Afghanistan didn't last a week. We got the POS email and they blew it up with a 1/4 lbs block of C4. Cool video by the way.... By the way the rest of the gang came back from Afghanistan yesterday. Truck was hit by an IED 4 miles from the airport they were leaving from. Truck took a big hit but everyone was OK. Chris C. Edited November 15, 2008 by Chris Conley Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uscbigdawg Posted November 15, 2008 Share Posted November 15, 2008 Chris, How 'bout for an Accupoint? I know it's a difficult deal to machine. Probably a two piece setup. On on the actual dial and then one forward of that to ride the tube in front of the dial as a guide. Rich Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KalaniLaker Posted November 15, 2008 Share Posted November 15, 2008 I've got a throw lever on my Meopta. Love it. Any one make one for the Nightforce 1-4? I was wondering if I could modify a Leupold or Burris throw lever to fit. Any one tried that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Conley Posted November 15, 2008 Share Posted November 15, 2008 (edited) Chris,How 'bout for an Accupoint? I know it's a difficult deal to machine. Probably a two piece setup. On on the actual dial and then one forward of that to ride the tube in front of the dial as a guide. Rich Hummm.... Good idea. I'm worried that over time the little bit of surface area in contact with the power ring would wear out pretty quick. It is made out of rubber and fits over the ring. Chris C. Edited November 15, 2008 by Chris Conley Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-JQ- Posted November 15, 2008 Share Posted November 15, 2008 Umm... We have been down that road also. They just don't hold up and lose tension during a fight. One we tested out in Afghanistan didn't last a week. We got the POS email and they blew it up with a 1/4 lbs block of C4. Cool video by the way....By the way the rest of the gang came back from Afghanistan yesterday. Truck was hit by an IED 4 miles from the airport they were leaving from. Truck took a big hit but everyone was OK. Chris C. Now that is product testing folks! Glad to hear everyone was OK. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badchad Posted November 18, 2008 Author Share Posted November 18, 2008 Thanks everyone. I just ordered the lever from RandRracing. I wasn’t so worried about having one snag anything during a match but more likely when I pull it in and out of my safe. The one from RandR looks like a good size. I wanted to try the grip tape idea, but my problem twisting the eyepiece isn’t so much the grip, but my fingers getting pinched between the scope and the gun when I try to twist it fast. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badchad Posted November 22, 2008 Author Share Posted November 22, 2008 I just received and installed my throw lever from RandRracing and I really like it. Just playing with it a little, yeah it seems like it will be a significant advantage. Short enough not to be ungainly and big enough to grab. It does take some force to turn so I can see where a longer one would be easier on the fingers, but I think with a little practice I’ll get the hang of it and it will be plenty fast. As for increased wear and tear on the scope, well, I figure that’s what a forever warranty is for. It seems like turning it with my strong arm is the best method. Is that what everyone else does? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Conley Posted November 23, 2008 Share Posted November 23, 2008 I use my weak hand so I can keep the rifle mounted and the eye never comes out of the scope. I guess it's one of those things that "whatever works best for you". Try it both ways and see what works best for you. Chris C. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badchad Posted November 23, 2008 Author Share Posted November 23, 2008 Using my strong arm to twist the lever, I'm still keeping the rifle mounted, it just seems easier for me to hold it up to my shoulder by the hand guard. Trying to twist the lever with my weak arm is a PITA and my rifle swings all over the place, but initially I thought that's how it should be done. I'm not sure if what I'm doing is "correct" but so far it seems considerably easier and faster for me. With your longer lever perhaps it's easier to twist weak handed. I’ll keep playing with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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