Rolex Posted November 3, 2008 Share Posted November 3, 2008 Does any one have results between the KKM and LoneWolf barrels? Use in G34 or G35 using 125 or 180 gr FMJ. The KKM is about $100 more or less than LW- but is there that many more A's for the $$$ ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Micah Posted November 3, 2008 Share Posted November 3, 2008 but is there that many more A's for the $$$ ? The best A to $$ ratio comes with the stock barrel. Unless you are shooting lead or building an Open gun, there is little need for an aftermarket barrel. FWIW if you use the search function you will find TONS of additional information on the topic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rolex Posted November 3, 2008 Author Share Posted November 3, 2008 Thank You I'll check it out? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Hefta Posted November 3, 2008 Share Posted November 3, 2008 Stay with the stock Glock barrel, use the money you will save on more jacketed bullets. Good luck, Dan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the duck of death Posted November 3, 2008 Share Posted November 3, 2008 I do not like Glock's 40 barrel, too little case head support. I went w/a KKM barrel. The 9mm barrel is another story, the chamber is tight and case head support is adequate. If shooting 9mm open major, use a KKM or other quality aftermarket barrel. I reload and don't want to risk a KB w/a 40. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjohns930 Posted November 3, 2008 Share Posted November 3, 2008 If you are going to spend the money for a new barrel you might as well just get the KKM. I see no reason not too. In situations like this you get what you pay for. There is a reason the KKM costs more IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimlakeside Posted November 3, 2008 Share Posted November 3, 2008 I am completely satisfied with my Lone Wolf barrel in my Glock 34. I also have another G34 with a stock barrel. I shoot lead (both commercially cast and bullets that I cast) in both guns and can not tell the difference between the two guns. I have had no leading problems in my stock barrel, so I just haven't bought an after market barrel for my second G34. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjohns930 Posted November 3, 2008 Share Posted November 3, 2008 Also just so you all know I am not trying to talk bad about the Lone Wolf I am just pointing out the fact that there is probably a quality difference somewhere along the line between the two brands. I have limited experience with Lone Wolf and KKM barrels but if I were to choose one for my own gun again I would go with the KKM in a heart beat. (My G35 has a KKM) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badchad Posted November 4, 2008 Share Posted November 4, 2008 there is probably a quality difference somewhere along the line between the two brands. If there is I would like to hear what it is (better steel, better tolerances, what?). Having read all the past threads on the subject, it seems most everyone is happy with their Lone Wolf barrels. I am with mine. I don't recall anyone saying why a KKM barrel would be better, just a lot of people saying they like them too. For twice the asking price I want to know what the quality difference is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjohns930 Posted November 4, 2008 Share Posted November 4, 2008 (edited) Not saying that I know what it is but it may show its self after some tens of thousands of rounds, maybe not. Just giving my recommendation and opinion on the matter. But if I were to venture a guess it would probably be materials and tolerances as you had mentioned. Possibly better chamber dimensions on the KKM. Possibly the way the barrel is rifled? Cut vs. button or something like that as well. Again as I said there is nothing wrong with the lone wolfs just stating that for a $100 price premium there is probably a quality difference somewhere. You are paying for the name too. There is no doubt about that. But I doubt that its to the extent that it would cost near double. Edited November 4, 2008 by mjohns930 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HighVelocity Posted November 4, 2008 Share Posted November 4, 2008 I was shooting with a friend today and he shows me the new LWD barrel he got for his G21 so he can shoot cast bullets. He was getting a lot of light primer hits with it. Put the stock barrel back in, no problems. Not sure of the chamber was cut too deep or what. The KKM in my 34, the Storm Lake in my 17 and the LWD in my 21 all work fine. Maybe I'm just lucky. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe D Posted November 4, 2008 Share Posted November 4, 2008 There is no difference in quality. KKM just dips into your wallet more. I have a couple of LWD barrels that group better than I can shoot. Folks get hung up on trying for extreme accuracy. Have you taken a look at the size of the target we shoot? Please, no one is asking you to make head shots at 50 yds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SammyK Posted November 4, 2008 Share Posted November 4, 2008 Rolex, Thanks, I was wondering the exact same thing as i am considering the conversion barrel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rolex Posted November 4, 2008 Author Share Posted November 4, 2008 Sammyk- I put a LW on my G35 and never looked back-ita a plus if reloading also! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjohns930 Posted November 4, 2008 Share Posted November 4, 2008 There is no difference in quality. KKM just dips into your wallet more. I have a couple of LWD barrels that group better than I can shoot. Folks get hung up on trying for extreme accuracy. Have you taken a look at the size of the target we shoot? Please, no one is asking you to make head shots at 50 yds. Well Joe D I take your word for it so I stand corrected. Thanks for clarifying. Once again i was NOT trying to say they are no good just giving my preference and opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob D Posted November 4, 2008 Share Posted November 4, 2008 There is no difference in quality. KKM just dips into your wallet more. I have a couple of LWD barrels that group better than I can shoot. Folks get hung up on trying for extreme accuracy. Have you taken a look at the size of the target we shoot? Please, no one is asking you to make head shots at 50 yds. Thanks for the input Joe. I've been on the fence, and I think you convinced me to save the cash and get a lone wolf. My stock barrel is way more accurate than I am, but I'm shooting enough to make it worth the switch to lead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
98sr20ve Posted November 4, 2008 Share Posted November 4, 2008 I guess I am the only one NOT satisfied with his LW barrel. Mine had a HUGE throat so it leaded badly. I would not buy another LW barrel. It ran great with jacketed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loves2Shoot Posted November 4, 2008 Share Posted November 4, 2008 I guess I am the only one NOT satisfied with his LW barrel. Mine had a HUGE throat so it leaded badly. I would not buy another LW barrel. It ran great with jacketed. I've seen some good an some not as good in the LW. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G-ManBart Posted November 5, 2008 Share Posted November 5, 2008 (edited) I do not like Glock's 40 barrel, too little case head support. I went w/a KKM barrel. The 9mm barrel is another story, the chamber is tight and case head support is adequate. If shooting 9mm open major, use a KKM or other quality aftermarket barrel. I reload and don't want to risk a KB w/a 40. I've got four Glocks in .40 with stock barrels and every time someone claims this, I pull one of the guns apart and show them that there's almost every last bit of cartridge supported...as much as any other supported barrel out there, as much as in the 9mm versions give or take a micrometer reading and it would be hard to have any more supported without having a radical ramp angle. Yes, the mouth of the chamber is bigger at that part, which allows the case to get the guppy belly, but it's still supported. Edit to add: I am not, in any way, a "Glock guy"....they point high for me and beat the heck out of my fingers and the web of my hand enough to cause discomfort, calluses and bleeding with any extended shooting. Edited November 5, 2008 by G-ManBart Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AustinMike Posted November 5, 2008 Share Posted November 5, 2008 I've owned both in .40. My KKM is a drop-in and it's accurate, good case support, no problems. The LWD I had in another gun was accurate, but chamber was really tight. I had a few jams until I started using the barrel as a gauge (which is probably good practice anyway.) Whether the benefit is real or psychological, I felt better using one of them in .40 since I have no idea how many times my brass has been reloaded. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob D Posted November 6, 2008 Share Posted November 6, 2008 Has anyone that's had problems with the LWD barrels contacted LWD about them? If so, how was their customer service and what was their response? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kmitchl Posted November 7, 2008 Share Posted November 7, 2008 I have a Jarvis in my G35 and a LWD in my G21. Both shoot better than I can. I think the LWD barrels are a good value. The G21 chamber is tighter than a stock Glock chamber. I case gage anything I shoot in a match so it's not an issue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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