mrmetalweld57 Posted November 2, 2008 Share Posted November 2, 2008 There has got to be a way to cut down on smoke besides shooting jacketed. Any suggestions? Thanks Ed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
el pres Posted November 2, 2008 Share Posted November 2, 2008 The secret is in the choice of powders !!! ie. 40.cal Tightgroup, Clays,=lots of smoke WST, N320,=less smoke Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HSMITH Posted November 2, 2008 Share Posted November 2, 2008 Do an internet search for 'felix lube'. It smokes less and works better than all but LBT Blue soft lube. LBT Blue works almost as well and smokes about the same. Add 30% Mobil 1 grease to the Felix lube and it works even better but the gun gets slippery after a couple hundred rounds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Modoc Posted November 2, 2008 Share Posted November 2, 2008 (edited) Look at this thread, Just the facts: Lube Recipes - Cast Boolits The Castboolit forum is a gold mine of information concerning shooting cast lead. They have been as freindly and helpful as the members of BEnoverse Edited November 2, 2008 by Modoc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toolguy Posted November 2, 2008 Share Posted November 2, 2008 The best lube is the Carnuba wax lube by White Label bullet lube. It is also very low smoke and cheap too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmetalweld57 Posted November 2, 2008 Author Share Posted November 2, 2008 Thankyou all very much, I'll check out that web sight and see what else I can learn. Ed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imashooter2 Posted November 3, 2008 Share Posted November 3, 2008 Rooster Jacket is as low smoke as anything I've tried, and since it's a film lube it applies very quickly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dajarrel Posted November 3, 2008 Share Posted November 3, 2008 (edited) Unfortunately, it has been my experience that if you shoot lead, you are going to have to deal with smoke. Just ain't no way around it. There are lubes that smoke a little less and those that smoke more, but once again, you can't get away from it. I have tried many lubes on many different hardnesses of bullet. Every time I think I may have something, I have a test I put it through. On a real humid morning when there is no wind, set up a bill drill between you and the sun. Most of the time the first mag isn't too bad, the smoke from the second mag begins to obscure the targets. The third magazine usually sets up a smoke screen that will require you to step to the side to see the targets. For me, It's a fact of life. Lead bullets with lube smoke. Even Precision Bullets smoke...even with vit N320 BUT....If you ever do find the holy grail of lead bullets and discover a "smokeless" lube, I"ll be the first in line to try it!! fwiw dj Edited to add: I have found Rooster Labs "Zambini" (red in color) hard lube and Thompson's "Blue Angel" hard lube to be on the lower end of smoky. Lee's alanox (sp) the "dip and dry" lube or anything that is a soft combination of beeswax and/or lanolin to be on the higher end of smokiness. dj Edited November 3, 2008 by dajarrel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom E Posted November 3, 2008 Share Posted November 3, 2008 The secret is in the choice of powders !!!ie. 40.cal Tightgroup, Clays,=lots of smoke WST, N320,=less smoke Yes. In general, slower powders will turn less of your bullet lube into smoke. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pskys2 Posted November 3, 2008 Share Posted November 3, 2008 Actually FMJ's with exposed lead bases will also smoke. Not near as bad as a lead bullet though. There's something nostalgic about the old soft, beeswax type of lube's smell. Last summer I shot an indoor Revolver Match with Lead Bullets in my M29. I didn't notice the smoke as an obstacle, kind of seemed cool running thru it after engaging 3 targets at one spot. Sunlight will definitely enhance the smokes obscuring properties in some conditions. If you practice more than compete it would be worth the cost vs training to go with lead. If you compete more than practice the savings may not be worth it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AzShooter Posted November 3, 2008 Share Posted November 3, 2008 http://www.lsstuff.com/ I use the 2500 Lube. No heater needed. Price is perfect. I was using the BAC lube but in the summer in Az it would run in the press if left overnight. Never had problems on the bullets but it would leak in the Star sizer. The 2500 lube has no smoke and doesn't run. I use it for my .38s and for my rifle bullets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CSEMARTIN Posted November 3, 2008 Share Posted November 3, 2008 Will tumbling in Moly help cut down on smoke? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimlakeside Posted November 3, 2008 Share Posted November 3, 2008 The best lube is the Carnuba wax lube by White Label bullet lube. It is also very low smoke and cheap too. I agree. I also use VVN320 and VVN340, but there is still smoke. No problem outdoors, but indoors it will distract you a little. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
20nickels Posted November 4, 2008 Share Posted November 4, 2008 Will tumbling in Moly help cut down on smoke? I was inquiring about this some time ago, here's what we came up with FWIW; http://www.brianenos.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=60426 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RevolverJockey Posted November 10, 2008 Share Posted November 10, 2008 I use Rooster Labs Zambini Red (Rifle) in .40 Major with WST and it seems like there is no smoke at all. Barrel gets cleaned about every 2kish. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Modoc Posted November 10, 2008 Share Posted November 10, 2008 I will have to say, that I have not noticed a lube smoke issiue on my cast boolist. Primarily due to the fact that all of my home cast have been shot over compressed loads of FFg or FFFg (Black Powder). I have not really seen much smoke (relatively) shooting Lazer Cast with Blue lube over Unique. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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