vrmn1 Posted September 24, 2008 Share Posted September 24, 2008 They were at the US Steel Nationals Long story short they said Jerry's 22 revolver has a 10 pound trigger. I know you can lighten them up much at all but WOW! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chemepharmd Posted September 24, 2008 Share Posted September 24, 2008 Seems like the consensus I remember is that they can be lightened to between 7 and 8 lb and still fire every time. 10-shot 617's w/ DS-10's are a lot of fun to shoot (& cheap, too). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
20nickels Posted September 24, 2008 Share Posted September 24, 2008 His fingers must be rocks. I heard once that he actually puts a heavier than factory trigger return spring in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CSEMARTIN Posted September 24, 2008 Share Posted September 24, 2008 I heard a rumor that Jerry has been training with these guys: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SsO6BqBvFJw...feature=related Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Palmetto Sharpshooter Posted September 24, 2008 Share Posted September 24, 2008 I heard a rumor that Jerry has been training with these guys:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SsO6BqBvFJw...feature=related I would bust my butt trying to do that. Why not just shoot and move laterally? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carmoney Posted September 24, 2008 Share Posted September 24, 2008 Seems like the consensus I remember is that they can be lightened to between 7 and 8 lb and still fire every time. 10-shot 617's w/ DS-10's are a lot of fun to shoot (& cheap, too). I've never figured out how to get a 617 under 8 pounds and keep it reliable enough for match shooting. And believe me I've tried. The DA trigger on my 617 is every bit of 10+ pounds.....but it's nice and smooth, and it doesn't misfire! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carmoney Posted September 24, 2008 Share Posted September 24, 2008 His fingers must be rocks. I heard once that he actually puts a heavier than factory trigger return spring in. Once upon a time, that was true. He says he "outgrew" that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cas Posted September 24, 2008 Share Posted September 24, 2008 I would bust my butt trying to do that. Why not just shoot and move laterally? Or bust something laughing. With about 8 seconds between the "contact" command and the second shot, they better not try that against someone who can actually shoot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henry625 Posted September 25, 2008 Share Posted September 25, 2008 His fingers must be rocks. I heard once that he actually puts a heavier than factory trigger return spring in. I got to dry fire the revolver he was using at an ICORE match in 2007,...the action was really smooth, but not light, just very smooth. He told me that he has put heavier trigger return springs in, the trigger has to stay in touch with his finger. I have been very fortunate to see Jerry shoot many times over the years since I live in Louisiana, to this day, I am still amazed at his ability. He has always been one of the friendliest guys on the range and doesn't hesitate to answer any question, no matter how elementary it might seem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vrmn1 Posted September 25, 2008 Author Share Posted September 25, 2008 (edited) I never checked my 18 until tonight. 10 1/2 pounds SMOOTH but heavy. And it works. Just never thought about it. Edited September 25, 2008 by vrmn1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neomet Posted September 25, 2008 Share Posted September 25, 2008 The DA trigger on my 617 is every bit of 10+ pounds.....but it's nice and smooth, and it doesn't misfire! Isn't that kinda like saying "but she has a great personality"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carmoney Posted September 25, 2008 Share Posted September 25, 2008 The DA trigger on my 617 is every bit of 10+ pounds.....but it's nice and smooth, and it doesn't misfire! Isn't that kinda like saying "but she has a great personality"? Yeah, well, there's nothing you can do when you're trying to make a revolver function reliably with rimfire ammo. They simply take more energy (i.e. more mainspring tension) to light the priming compound. All rimfire revolvers are "3:00 A.M. girls" in terms of DA trigger pull. It's that or go home alone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom E Posted September 25, 2008 Share Posted September 25, 2008 My 617-6 is 7 lb DA. That's with an 11 lb Wolff rebound spring. My 617-1 (old type firing pin and forged hammer) is marginally lighter. Also with 11 lb rebound spring. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vrmn1 Posted September 25, 2008 Author Share Posted September 25, 2008 The DA trigger on my 617 is every bit of 10+ pounds.....but it's nice and smooth, and it doesn't misfire! Isn't that kinda like saying "but she has a great personality"? Yeah, well, there's nothing you can do when you're trying to make a revolver function reliably with rimfire ammo. They simply take more energy (i.e. more mainspring tension) to light the priming compound. All rimfire revolvers are "3:00 A.M. girls" in terms of DA trigger pull. It's that or go home alone. ROTHFLMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
itchy Posted September 25, 2008 Share Posted September 25, 2008 All rimfire revolvers are "3:00 A.M. girls" in terms of DA trigger pull. It's that or go home alone. Is that like, "She was good from far, but far from good?" Aw, just give me another beer! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
20nickels Posted September 25, 2008 Share Posted September 25, 2008 Why wait all night? Heavy trigger pulls need lovin' too! BTW, what does "ROTHFLMAO" mean? I am not up on IM abbreviations, if that is what it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
20nickels Posted September 25, 2008 Share Posted September 25, 2008 I heard a rumor that Jerry has been training with these guys:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SsO6BqBvFJw...feature=related Does that silly ninja roll have any practical use in defensive pistol shooting? The only time I've seen that usefull is when trying to break a fall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SLM Posted September 25, 2008 Share Posted September 25, 2008 BTW, what does "ROTHFLMAO" mean? I am not up on IM abbreviations, if that is what it is. Rolling On The Floor Laughing My Ass Off Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Revopop Posted September 25, 2008 Share Posted September 25, 2008 I especially like how they miss the paper plates after they roll for no reason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Viggen Posted September 25, 2008 Share Posted September 25, 2008 I heard a rumor that Jerry has been training with these guys:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SsO6BqBvFJw...feature=related Does that silly ninja roll have any practical use in defensive pistol shooting? The only time I've seen that usefull is when trying to break a fall. It is a primitive signal to others of the type that they have a death wish and are idiots. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carmoney Posted September 25, 2008 Share Posted September 25, 2008 My 617-6 is 7 lb DA. That's with an 11 lb Wolff rebound spring. My 617-1 (old type firing pin and forged hammer) is marginally lighter. Also with 11 lb rebound spring. I'd be curious to see how you measure trigger pull (everybody seems to do it a little differently). And I'd be curious to know what ammo you're shooting, and the number of occasional misfires you're able to tolerate. I can make any 617 have a 6- or 7-pound pull. That's easy. Making it go bang reliably enough for competition shooting? Well, that is another matter altogether....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carmoney Posted September 25, 2008 Share Posted September 25, 2008 Heavy trigger pulls need lovin' too! Good one! (Sure sounds like something Cliff would say....) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fenwick Posted September 25, 2008 Share Posted September 25, 2008 I wouldnt want to be doing the filming of the rolly polly shooting boys.never been comfortable looking down a gun barrel . of course I'm sure they put the saftey on before the roll. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chemepharmd Posted September 25, 2008 Share Posted September 25, 2008 never been comfortable looking down a gun barrel You're not kidding. Another video of these guys, as well as a link to a hilarious thread from somewhere else is in the "What I Like" section under "The Mall Ninja". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chemepharmd Posted September 25, 2008 Share Posted September 25, 2008 (edited) I've never figured out how to get a 617 under 8 pounds and keep it reliable enough for match shooting. And believe me I've tried. The DA trigger on my 617 is every bit of 10+ pounds.....but it's nice and smooth, and it doesn't misfire! I stand corrected. Great memory has never been one of my strong points. Is there any particular brand of .22 ammo that never fails? I typically use the 550-round bricks of Federal. Failure rate on these is only ~1 round per brick at the most (my perception, anyway). Had much worse luck with at least one other brand. Edited September 25, 2008 by chemepharmd Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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