gary meyer Posted July 3, 2003 Share Posted July 3, 2003 what size dot is everyone using for steel challenge and for paper steel combo? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulW Posted July 3, 2003 Share Posted July 3, 2003 I love the 4mil dot, but a couple years ago at a state match I had to shoot into the sun in the morning, and I just could not see the dot. So now I use a 6mil and am very happy with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benny hill Posted July 3, 2003 Share Posted July 3, 2003 6 min. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Ankeny Posted July 4, 2003 Share Posted July 4, 2003 Another vote for the 6 minute dot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
titandriver Posted July 4, 2003 Share Posted July 4, 2003 12 minute. Big, bold, beautiful!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joshua Posted July 4, 2003 Share Posted July 4, 2003 6 minute, but if I ever win the lottery I'll order 2 identical guns for each class of shooting dicipline, i.e., IPSC, steel challenge. One with 8 or 10 minute and the other a 4 minute. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gary meyer Posted July 4, 2003 Author Share Posted July 4, 2003 so you like big for uspsa and small for steel...thanks guys Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin Kline Posted July 6, 2003 Share Posted July 6, 2003 I think Todd still shoots a 6 out of his. I liked the 8 when I shot Open ages ago, but would now go to a 6. When I played with someone else's 6 min, I really liked it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Singlestack Posted July 6, 2003 Share Posted July 6, 2003 I've got an 8 on mine but I've never tried anything else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PistolPete Posted July 6, 2003 Share Posted July 6, 2003 I've got the 12 on my gun and I love it. You never miss the dot and target aquisition is very fast. I've shot the smaller dots and they are great but I totally recommend the 12. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joshua Posted July 7, 2003 Share Posted July 7, 2003 How much of a standard round steel plate is covered by the dot when your 25 paces away? I've tried the 12min dot before and it is great for those fast rat-tat-tat close in targets but with the steel plates at 20 and beyond it is too big, specially when they paint the plates red. I suppose it's just a matter of getting used to. josh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bucky Posted July 7, 2003 Share Posted July 7, 2003 I use a 1 minute dot for steel and I love it. Plus, I can see it fine no matter how bright out it is. For IPSC, I switch to the 15 minute diamond.... whoops, that would be a holo sight - sorry Well, when I did shoot CMore, I used a 4 minute for a while, then switched to 6 because of washout in bright sun. Wish they made the 4s with a little more horsepower. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sincityshooter Posted July 8, 2003 Share Posted July 8, 2003 Gary, with the bright sun out here I would recommend nothing smaller than a 8 min dot. I switched to the 12 moa a while ago and love it. I actually have better results on a 50y target using a 12 moa compared to a 6 moa. For anything inside of 15 yards the 12 moa rocks. It's SO EASY to pick up and track. Shooting on the move in bright desert sunlight on fairly close targets is really tough with a smaller dot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
38supPat Posted July 14, 2003 Share Posted July 14, 2003 I like the 6...I really like the 4 if its a lot of tough shots, but the trade off is its tough to see on the fast close stuff. I like a 6 for precision and an 8 for general IPSC/Steel now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AikiDale Posted October 13, 2004 Share Posted October 13, 2004 Well after doing a search I got enough information to be useless so I am bringing this thread back with a a qualifier: Which dot size for a new open shooter with 53 year old myopic and presbyopic eyeballs? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kdj Posted October 13, 2004 Share Posted October 13, 2004 Dale, I've just tried a bunch of different modules and have settled on the 6 MOA. The 8+ dots are easier to find but I couldn't deal with the fact that some targets were totally covered by the dot (e.g. head shots at anything over 10 yds). The 4 was better for fine accuracy but sometimes difficult to pick up. At about $40/module, you might want to buy a 6 and a 10 and shoot both for a while and see which works better for you. That way, you'll also have a spare if one gives up on you during a match or a class Kevin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gmshooter Posted October 13, 2004 Share Posted October 13, 2004 6 min dot works the best!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rush Posted October 13, 2004 Share Posted October 13, 2004 hmm.. i've started out on a 12... but went back to an 8 for IPSC style shooting... now am thinking of a 6 as it seems better for those really technical stages (far targets, swingers, tight shots) which seem to quite popular these days... does anyone notice a significant difference between a 8 and 6 moa? Regards, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redmercury2 Posted October 13, 2004 Share Posted October 13, 2004 I shoot in the AZ. desert,PHX. region and the 6 min dot works fine , paper or plates. any size larger and for me it covers too much of the target for precision,for ex. plates at 25 yds., or paper at 35 plus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cpty1 Posted October 13, 2004 Share Posted October 13, 2004 A couple of friends of mine went to 12s and I thought they were crazy. Well, they are...but that's another story, or two. I've been using a 12 for about 9 months and now use nothing else. A 12 is big and easy to find, and never washes out on white steel in bright sunlight. Never had a problem with the dot size on any target at any distance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackdragon Posted October 13, 2004 Share Posted October 13, 2004 I use a 6 MOA for everything, except The Am Handgunner then I use a 4 MOA. Ivan SCS Vegas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AikiDale Posted October 13, 2004 Share Posted October 13, 2004 Thanks for the replies! Six seems to have more votes overall so I think I'll go with that at first and try to see some others before I buy the back up module as Kevin so wisely suggested. I have heard of scope batteries and diodes going out at the most inconvenient times. I still have about a month before the gun is built so I'll try to find a larger one to take a peek at. The ones I've seen so far have been 4 and 6. If one were to use a larger dot, do you zero at the top edge of the dot or try to figure out where the center is on a target? Can you tell I have lots of questions before the gun gets here? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cpty1 Posted October 14, 2004 Share Posted October 14, 2004 I sight in on a black target paster at 25 yards. Turn the dot down low enough that you can see the paster thru the dot. Sight in dead on at 25, shoot off the top of the dot at 50, and hold at the top of the head on 4-7 yard upper A zone shots. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AikiDale Posted October 14, 2004 Share Posted October 14, 2004 Thanks Chris, that's good to know. Now if I can just remember where I wrote that down when the blaster gets here.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ken Kwiat Posted October 14, 2004 Share Posted October 14, 2004 Put me down for the 4 MOA. But, and there's always a but in life, I change my battery alot in the bright CO sunshine. I use the 4 MOA for steel and IPSC matches. Now I did try a 2 MOA dot at the Handgunner a couple of years ago -- it was very humbling. I simply like the 4 MOA for the extra confidence when shooting steel from a distance or IPSC partials. IMHO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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