ghost21 Posted June 28, 2008 Share Posted June 28, 2008 Hey guys, Just need a little advice! I just got a new para P-14 hi-cap 1911. And I was wondering if anyone could tell me , What would be the easiest and simplest way to do a home trigger job on it. The trigger pull is a little heavy for me and I would like to lighting it up a bit. Would changing mainsprings and firing pin springs do the trick? If so what would be the best brand/make. Thanks jeff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe4d Posted June 28, 2008 Share Posted June 28, 2008 you can either get instruction or a manual the proper jig and stones and teach yourself, screwing up quite a bit along the way, pay someone else to do it, or go for one of the complete drop in kits. Going to a lighter mainspring ( dont mess with firing pin spring) will only lighten the trigger a small amount. Personally since I now have the tools and skill I would remove the series 80 parts, put the spacer in the frame to convert it to 70 series design, order a 17lb mainspring, titanium hammer strut and tool steel sear and hammer of whatever design struck my fancy. If this is probably a one time deal for you order a under travel, over travel adjustable trigger and take it to a smith and ask him to change the hammer and sear and do a trigger job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SharonAnne9x23 Posted July 9, 2008 Share Posted July 9, 2008 If you REALLY want to do it yourself, I suggest getting a Dawson or Cylinder and Slide drop in kit. Each contains a hammer, sear, disconnecter, mainspring and leaf spring. Add a hammer strut and pin and you are good to go. If your P14 has the series 80 type firing pin safety I would add the C&S TIN coated Series 80 trigger pull reduction kit also. If you do this, have a REAL gunsmith do a safety check. As Joe said, leave the firing pin spring alone. It has nothing to do with your trigger 'pull'. Blessed Be SharonAnne Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johann the Horrible Posted July 10, 2008 Share Posted July 10, 2008 It is a dark art practiced by gun smiths while no-one is watching. Personally I would rather remove my appendix myself than work on guns trigger, I think it is safer and easier. You have to understand exactly how the parts interact with each other and the frame. Frankly, I would just pay a gunsmith to do it as it works out cheaper as by doing it yourself you may end up paying a smith to replace all the ruined parts plus his labor. Unfortunately in my case DIY stands for Destroy It Yourself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChuckS Posted July 10, 2008 Share Posted July 10, 2008 (edited) Jeff, I shoot para-based pistols and I can tell you what I have learned over the years. Things can be done to the stock parts to improve the trigger but they probably won't last all that long. Quality parts have lasted for at least 30K rounds for me. As to how long the stock parts last? I dunno since I believe my gunsmith and I got replacement C&S parts. The sear spring slot in the frame of the para is a bit lower than the standard 1911 so the spring in the drop-in kit may not fit correctly. As you go lighter in trigger force, everything becomes more critical such as pin hole diameter and alignment. If you have something too loose or crooked, you can have a poor-man's machine pistol on your hands. One thing you can do is take out the series 80 crap and get one of these spacers to keep the sear in line. You should loose about 1/2 pound force from that. You certainly could do some other stuff and have some success DIY but only time will tell. I really think the gunsmith route it the way to go for this part. You know why they call them "drop-in" parts, don't you? You buy them. put them in yourself, screw around trying to get them working and then you finally go "drop in" on your gunsmith. Good luck, Chuck Edited July 10, 2008 by ChuckS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flexmoney Posted July 10, 2008 Share Posted July 10, 2008 Throw out the Para stuff and put a C&S kit in it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul788 Posted July 24, 2008 Share Posted July 24, 2008 Don't waste your time trying to improve the pull with the Para hammer and sear in the gun. Toss the Series '80 safety parts and install the spacer. Then get a drop-in kit and also replace the mainspring. Tweaking the sear spring is the last step. I ended up with a 2 lb. pull that has lasted for 20k plus rds. Paul Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoMiE Posted July 24, 2008 Share Posted July 24, 2008 Throw out the Para stuff and put a C&S kit in it. Will changing the trigger make you a gear q*^^r? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SharonAnne9x23 Posted September 1, 2008 Share Posted September 1, 2008 I have been waiting to hear of results. How did it go? What did you do and what results did you obtain??? Blessed Be SharonAnne Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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