JThompson Posted March 28, 2008 Share Posted March 28, 2008 I have a friend with an XD 40. He's wanting to shoot some minor loads through it. He was using 3.3 WST Berry 180... that should give him about a 132-134pf right? IF that is so, the gun will not cycle with the stock spring. What spring do you guys suggest for a minor load, or do you think cutting coils is the way to go? Thanks in advance. Jim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoshF Posted March 28, 2008 Share Posted March 28, 2008 Jim, is this a Tactical or Service model? I've got a Tactical with a stock spring that cycles 3.5 TG w/Berry 180 forever. The stock Tac spring is 18lbs and a 16lb is about as light as I'd go. Lower than that Striker function is somewhat effected and can lead to light strikes. I have a friend with an XD 40. He's wanting to shoot some minor loads through it. He was using 3.3 WST Berry 180... that should give him about a 132-134pf right? IF that is so, the gun will not cycle with the stock spring. What spring do you guys suggest for a minor load, or do you think cutting coils is the way to go?Thanks in advance. Jim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
10ring Posted March 29, 2008 Share Posted March 29, 2008 Where do you get recoil springs for the XD? I've got a 5" XD-9 that dribbles full power 9mm, (now don't laugh), brass out. I'd like to put a lighter spring in it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Hostetter Posted March 29, 2008 Share Posted March 29, 2008 If you buy the right guide rod you can convert it to 1911 springs and have plenty of choices...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loves2Shoot Posted March 29, 2008 Share Posted March 29, 2008 www.springerprecision.com (or visit our sponsor page in the BE Forum sponsor section.) We also have two new striker springs that will allow you some more flexibility in the recoil spring that you use. 10 Ring, Try shooting a round without the magazine in, if it dribbles out the bottom of the mag well, there might be something else (non spring related) going on that can be fixed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hank Ellis Posted March 29, 2008 Share Posted March 29, 2008 My Production gun is an XD-40 Tactical and I shoot .40 Minor loads. 132 to 134pf is about right. I couldn't get mine to run lower than that. The stock spring is 18lb and try working with that. If it will cycle and go to slide lock on a empty mag, go with it. Otherwise go with a 16lb spring. Do not go lower than 16lb! Dropping a 14lb spring in it will have the gun falling out of battery just by shaking the gun fore and aft along the muzzle axis. Keep an eye on the spring and if it gets at all weak, change it. For the 5" Tactical model any brand 1911 recoil spring will fit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JThompson Posted March 29, 2008 Author Share Posted March 29, 2008 Thanks for the info guys... I will pass it along to him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HHjr Posted March 30, 2008 Share Posted March 30, 2008 The XD Tactical models will accept a 1911 Government recoil spring Without modification. As Always check for spring bind and adjust as required. I have 40 Tac and ran a 18# for 2000 rounds w/o issue. Right now I am running a 16.5. My XD is in Geneseo getting a new trigger bar as the trigger pin on mine came loose and wobbles. Harold H. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sparky Posted April 2, 2008 Share Posted April 2, 2008 I have a friend with an XD 40. He's wanting to shoot some minor loads through it. He was using 3.3 WST Berry 180... that should give him about a 132-134pf right? IF that is so, the gun will not cycle with the stock spring. What spring do you guys suggest for a minor load, or do you think cutting coils is the way to go?Thanks in advance. Jim You got a friend Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgerunnr Posted April 2, 2008 Share Posted April 2, 2008 Do you have to change the guide rod to utilize 1911 springs?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hank Ellis Posted April 3, 2008 Share Posted April 3, 2008 Do you have to change the guide rod to utilize 1911 springs??Not on the 5" Tactical. I use ISMI now but I've used Wolf also. When properly fitted either works. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shawn Knight Posted April 3, 2008 Share Posted April 3, 2008 I use a Wolff 16.5 variable in mine. It works like a champ and feels very soft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loves2Shoot Posted April 3, 2008 Share Posted April 3, 2008 Do you have to change the guide rod to utilize 1911 springs?? No, but it won't compress fully so you might want to use a little more spring. Barsto, SA, and we use the same guide rod design with a built up head. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgerunnr Posted April 3, 2008 Share Posted April 3, 2008 Pardon the stupid question but what do you mean use a little more spring? Also whats meant by"fitting" the spring? I assume its not drop in and go then? I am shooting 147 gr bear bullets w moly..3.2 gr powder for 950fps..gun shoots nice but just want to try a light than stock spring to experiment a little.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shawn Knight Posted April 3, 2008 Share Posted April 3, 2008 Pardon the stupid question but what do you mean use a little more spring? Also whats meant by"fitting" the spring? I assume its not drop in and go then? I am shooting 147 gr bear bullets w moly..3.2 gr powder for 950fps..gun shoots nice but just want to try a light than stock spring to experiment a little.. I would not go below 16lbs. Maybe 15lbs but I think the sweet spot on an XD 9mm is 16lbs for handloads. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JThompson Posted April 3, 2008 Author Share Posted April 3, 2008 Pardon the stupid question but what do you mean use a little more spring? Also whats meant by"fitting" the spring? I assume its not drop in and go then? I am shooting 147 gr bear bullets w moly..3.2 gr powder for 950fps..gun shoots nice but just want to try a light than stock spring to experiment a little.. I would not go below 16lbs. Maybe 15lbs but I think the sweet spot on an XD 9mm is 16lbs for handloads. Thanks.... that's what I read and others have posted... seems as though it doesn't hold it tight enough in battery with a lighter spring. This can cause the face to pull back slightly and you get a light strike. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kmca Posted April 4, 2008 Share Posted April 4, 2008 www.springerprecision.com (or visit our sponsor page in the BE Forum sponsor section.)We also have two new striker springs that will allow you some more flexibility in the recoil spring that you use. 10 Ring, Try shooting a round without the magazine in, if it dribbles out the bottom of the mag well, there might be something else (non spring related) going on that can be fixed. Scott, What's the difference between your new springs and the stock ones? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loves2Shoot Posted April 4, 2008 Share Posted April 4, 2008 They are longer, with more distance between the coils so the striker hits under more spring compression. www.springerprecision.com (or visit our sponsor page in the BE Forum sponsor section.)We also have two new striker springs that will allow you some more flexibility in the recoil spring that you use. 10 Ring, Try shooting a round without the magazine in, if it dribbles out the bottom of the mag well, there might be something else (non spring related) going on that can be fixed. Scott, What's the difference between your new springs and the stock ones? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vipertech Posted June 25, 2008 Share Posted June 25, 2008 I've been toying with a 12# Ismi spring in my 9mm tactical. You have to have a firm grip on it or the striker spring over powers the recoil spring. Which really sucks when it goes click when you pull the trigger. Went back to a 14# spring runs flawlessly. Also the lighter springs seem to help with not loosing the front sight as easy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tambarika Posted July 5, 2008 Share Posted July 5, 2008 Pardon the stupid question but what do you mean use a little more spring? Also whats meant by"fitting" the spring? I assume its not drop in and go then? I am shooting 147 gr bear bullets w moly..3.2 gr powder for 950fps..gun shoots nice but just want to try a light than stock spring to experiment a little.. I would not go below 16lbs. Maybe 15lbs but I think the sweet spot on an XD 9mm is 16lbs for handloads. you are correct. I tried 15lb and the spring wore out after 200 rounds of 850fps ammo. I can't even run a 17lb spring at 1000 fps for more than 300-400 rounds without it fatiguing. i also found a lot of battering on the rod face and bushing. Cutting springs is a bad idea also. tried that an did not like the results. i'm shooting a service model in .40 S&W. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hank Ellis Posted July 6, 2008 Share Posted July 6, 2008 Also whats meant by"fitting" the spring? If you buy an ISMI spring the instructions on how to fit it are included. However I'll try to expain it anyway. Make the gun empty. Take off the slide and remove the recoil spring. Put it all back together except the recoil spring. Run the slide as far back as it will go. Make a pencil mark on the frame referencing something on the slide. Take the gun back apart and put in the new spring. Run the slide as far back as it will go. Do the marks line up? If yes, go shoot. If no the spring has run into coil binding and will not allow the slide to operate as it should. Take the recoil spring back out and cut off 1/2 coil. Put it back in and try it again. Keep going till the marks line up. Just in the last couple matches I had a couple failures to go into battery. Sure sign of a weak spring. Didn't have another ISMI on hand and dropped in a Wolf. The Wolf didn't need any trimming in MY gun. Problem fixed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SLOPlinker Posted July 17, 2008 Share Posted July 17, 2008 OK, so I'll add my dumb question to the thread: I see here (and have seen elsewhere) that a XD 9mm Tactical can run down to a 16# spring w/ light loads. But, what's the factory spring? In other words, if I want to experiment with a variety between 16# at the low end and the factory sprint at the high end --- what's my high end? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shawn Knight Posted July 17, 2008 Share Posted July 17, 2008 OK, so I'll add my dumb question to the thread: I see here (and have seen elsewhere) that a XD 9mm Tactical can run down to a 16# spring w/ light loads. But, what's the factory spring? In other words, if I want to experiment with a variety between 16# at the low end and the factory sprint at the high end --- what's my high end? 18 is factory Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hank Ellis Posted July 17, 2008 Share Posted July 17, 2008 OK, so I'll add my dumb question to the thread: I see here (and have seen elsewhere) that a XD 9mm Tactical can run down to a 16# spring w/ light loads. But, what's the factory spring? In other words, if I want to experiment with a variety between 16# at the low end and the factory sprint at the high end --- what's my high end? 18 is factory Yup. Verified by multiple sources. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HPD SRT Posted July 22, 2008 Share Posted July 22, 2008 OK, so I'll add my dumb question to the thread: I see here (and have seen elsewhere) that a XD 9mm Tactical can run down to a 16# spring w/ light loads. But, what's the factory spring? In other words, if I want to experiment with a variety between 16# at the low end and the factory sprint at the high end --- what's my high end? 18 is factory Yup. Verified by multiple sources. 18.5 is my 45acp tac's factory spring. And I know a guy that ran a 12# spring in his xd9tac for production and it ran smooth as can be. As a matter of fact Scott I think you did the work on it originally, it was Perry's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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